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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-22-2009, 12:53 AM Thread Starter
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I need help, I'm a Beginner

I'm completely green to this, but i want to learn to spey sooooooooo bad. What would be the ideal beginner rod, reel, line, etc????
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what are you fishing for? Size of flies? Types of water? Time of year?
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If you are fishing steelhead, winter and summer, get a 12'6-13'6 7wt. A good reel and backing, running line and a scandi head (for summer fish) and a skagit head (for winter fish) with tips.....you'll be set up just right.

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Beginner rod

My best advice is go to a local fly shop that handles Spey (Two Handed) rods and will give you some casting instruction with the rod you buy. Spey rods are allot like women, they all have the same parts but very different personalities. You have to find the one you are compatible with. If you don't it can be a hair pulling knashing of teeth kinda thing.

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Based on your limited info here's my take:

An ideal beginner rod in an "all around" size is an easy casting medium action 13'6" rod in 8wt. Every rod manufacturer has something that will fit this criteria no matter what price point you have in mind.

Match the above with a large arbor disk drag reel loaded with a multi tip short head spey line and you will be able to fish anywhere.

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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Lightbulb I have a better idea.

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Based on your limited info here's my take:

An ideal beginner rod in an "all around" size is an easy casting medium action 13'6" rod in 8wt. Every rod manufacturer has something that will fit this criteria no matter what price point you have in mind.

Match the above with a large arbor disk drag reel loaded with a multi tip short head spey line and you will be able to fish anywhere.
Just contact Mike (above) direct and he'll set you up.

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MJC can hook you up.
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What Poppy said. He rocks.

Welcome aboard, and don't be afraid to ask lots of questions...the wealth of combined knowledge on this site is scarey...

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rod lenght

i have finally found a couple of rods i like. however i am curious about lenght of the rod and does it really make a difference between 13' and 13 '6".
i like the looks of the TFO deer creek rod and the way it feels and i like how lite the deco 13'3" 8 feels and how i feel the flex all the way through the cast.
will the 3 inches difference really make much difference that i would notice?
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depends on how fast you go

sometimes you'll miss the sweet spots,,,it says `clearwater/Idaho' man if it was I;i'd be sneaking around Poppy's place looking for tryouts and absorbing as much MOJO as i could(sometimes watching others will imprint technique)

watch as many videos here as possible and pay close attention to the rod/hand position thru a stroke,watch each vid over and over and over,as a for instance on a double spey note the rod flat to the water(or near enough) before the swing rearward(sweep),etc. etc. and lots of hours!,have fun and,don't go to fast you'll miss the sweet spots!

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i agree that poppy is a fantastic source of info and a great way to try things out. i have tried the 2 rods i am referring to and i like both they seem to cast well with my slow movement rather than having to poor it to the cast. i am sure that is also due to me being new to this. i am just wondering if rod lenght really makes alot of difference over 13 ' like the 13'6" verses the deco 13'3" does the 3 inches create any loss or gain depending? thanks for all and any input? i am wanting a rod that is versital so i can go to my old haunts on the rogue river in oregon and yet still fish my home waters ie the clearwater and salmon here in idaho.
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A 13'3"-8wt and a 13'6"-8wt are pretty much the same thing.

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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I'd start with short belly lines, a skagit or scandi.

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I'm completely green to this, but i want to learn to spey sooooooooo bad. What would be the ideal beginner rod, reel, line, etc????
Hi started this year myself, landed for a lesson with a double handed salmon rod,(rated 9) reel and rio wind cutter linė 9 also. The line flew out well and with the help of instruction I am now doing ok. The rod was a fast action which suited me, the reel does really matter as it only for bringing in line(drag and all that I just use my hand)My instructor told me that the rio is a good starting line. Hope this helps.
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short belly ?

when every one refers to a short belly line? does that mean a shorter head and longer running line or the other way around?
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