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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-04-2017, 11:17 PM Thread Starter
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excersies for body rotation

At 74 since switching from SH to DH I noticed there is a lot more body rotation needed to cast, different back muscles used and I am a little sore and stiff in that lower back the next day. Are there any exercises specifically for DH rotation that I might want to work on. I could ask my therapist but he's not a spey caster. So I am going directly to the source.
. Any suggestion. Thanks in advance slack
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At 74 since switching from SH to DH I noticed there is a lot more body rotation needed to cast, different back muscles used and I am a little sore and stiff in that lower back the next day. Are there any exercises specifically for DH rotation that I might want to work on. I could ask my therapist but he's not a spey caster. So I am going directly to the source.
. Any suggestion. Thanks in advance slack
This one is a killer to do but a great core exercise.

Strengthening your core is a great idea know matter what, but If your back is hurting you may be muscling your cast. I find I have the same problem when I muscle a cast instead of keeping it nice and smooth and easy. Good luck.

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at 74 I'd just get a hula hoop.

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Funny, I've never thought of casting (any kind) as needing much strength. If done correctly, casting requires suppleness and finesse, with which flexibility would come into play.

Every morning (not just when I'm going fishing), I fix a cuppa, relax on the floor, and do some basic stretches and exercises.

Neck rotations after my cycling accident are a must, but then lying on my back, heels tucked up to my butt, and slowly letting both knees fall from side to side. This loosens up my back, and prepares me for anything involving my back. Slow toe touches, etc are also a must.

Another very important notion to keep in mind - your abs have as much to do with your back health as your back muscles do. Get busy with sit ups, crunches, lateral motion exercises, etc.

Just like the DH casting.....slowly......slowly.
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In this video link Sergey Kluev show few excercises which are easy to do. I have tied a loop to a broom handle where I put excersice rubbers. That rotation excersice can also be done keeping handle so that tod arm pulls the "sweep" but pushing using bottom hand is very important.

Difficult language but the idea is easy to understand just watching.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NFTi7amuqiA
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At 74 since switching from SH to DH I noticed there is a lot more body rotation needed to cast, different back muscles used and I am a little sore and stiff in that lower back the next day. Are there any exercises specifically for DH rotation that I might want to work on. I could ask my therapist but he's not a spey caster. So I am going directly to the source.

. Any suggestion. Thanks in advance slack


Hey Slack, I'm a therapist, a strength coach, and a spey caster so may be able to give a few ideas for you to run by your therapist.

First and foremost - most stiffness/soreness from activity is from too much too fast combined with not enough for too long. Building tolerance to casting by gradually increasing the number of casts performed is going to be key.

If you have a therapist some exercises I would discuss with them would be chops and lifts with a band or cable machine. An anti rotation press (Pallof Press) and some single arm presses and rows will also get you well along the way towards where you are looking to go. (All this being very general advice and something that I suggest you discuss with your therapist to make sure it is right for you. Please don't just go apply these ideas without having that conversation.)


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might also look up yoga for back support - here is just one

Yoga Poses for the Lower Back
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to improve core strength, you can do some body twisting exercises - with cable machines, twist boards, etc

or youtube search: https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...twist+exercise

p.s. Sergey Kluev excercise is funny.
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Yoga and a good core workout.15 mins a day alternating the two.

I think you'd be surprised even at 74 how fast you can build strength and flexibility back. And since we aren't 15 yr olds at our fist football practice of the season, we can be smart enough to build up gradually and not cripple ourselves.

Sign up for a dozen yoga classes, and get the basics figured out. You may find you want to attend regularly, or maybe just practice on your own. Either way you'd have a good start.
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Why not practice casting an hour everyday. That should buildup the muscles you need.
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I have back problems and explained the two-handed cast to my pt person. He had me doing twists like the video above from foreach71 using surgical tubing. It comes in different tensions so I increased tension over time. Just tie a knot in one end and close a door with the knot on the outside. Only difference is that he told me not to move my hips or legs, just twist the torso. This is in addition to my other exercises all for the core and flexibility.
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Why not practice casting an hour everyday. That should buildup the muscles you need.
It is preferable to have a strong core/mid-section to begin with, and good variety activities/exercises.
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This is the best advice so far. The only thing that I would add, would be to suggest that when you speak to your therapist, be ready to show them what "spey" casting looks like. Some YouTube video clips of the casts that you use, possibly combined with you showing how you move (using a yard stick for a "rod"). Even though he doesn't cast a DH rod himself, if he sees what you're doing, he should be able to put together an exercise routine to help you out. Especially if he has experience with sports injuries.

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Hey Slack, I'm a therapist, a strength coach, and a spey caster so may be able to give a few ideas for you to run by your therapist.

First and foremost - most stiffness/soreness from activity is from too much too fast combined with not enough for too long. Building tolerance to casting by gradually increasing the number of casts performed is going to be key.

If you have a therapist some exercises I would discuss with them would be chops and lifts with a band or cable machine. An anti rotation press (Pallof Press) and some single arm presses and rows will also get you well along the way towards where you are looking to go. (All this being very general advice and something that I suggest you discuss with your therapist to make sure it is right for you. Please don't just go apply these ideas without having that conversation.)


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I want to thank all for your input and ideas, this is a great site with great people. slack
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