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Greased line???

Could someone explain what this term refers to?
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The term greased line means different things to different people. However according to the man who developed the idea, or at least the man who interpreted the man who developed it, it is simply presenting a fly to a fish broadside without drag. Because this was developed at a time when lines tended to gradually sink throughout a day of fishing this angler A.H.E. Wood would dress his lines to make them float all day. thus the term "greased" line.

These days the term is mostly used ( incorrectly) to define any floating line method broadside or not, with drag or not. Others call any surface fly presentation " greased line".

I think that because Wood fished the same area of the river all the time that he knew exactly where the fish held and therefore fish specific lies not just entire runs and that He actually fished the flu more down than across with the fly broadside to the fish without any drag. However this is not a dead drifted presentation as this is a very controlled presentation. He fished with tension on the line but without drag on the fly..

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Excellent!

Outstanding interpretation!


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Thumbs up Dead on Rob.

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I thought that's what it was... nice to see it so succinctly put.

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It might be worthwhile to add that after the broadside presentation a la greased line, the fly will fish a conventional swing once it comes under tension.
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And I thought its from stripping line in whilst eating Kentucky Fried Chicken (with hot sauce of course, ahem, shrimp sauce for fisherman).

I saw a segment of Henrik's latest video and I think Mr. Wood was mentioned having caught his 3000+ salmon? with this method. Blazer, wool hat, pipe, a portly stomach of genteel living, and splash guards and all.

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Rob nailed the interpretation. Yet the method never lives up to its definition. By that I mean the fly is fished with drag. Absent drag, the fly would fish dead drift and slowly sink. The broadside presentation cannot be maintained without drag. I've always felt that what the description of no drag was intended to mean is not too much, nor too little drag, which comprises the greased line swing. I just want to prevent a total lack of confusion about this popular topic.

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While not strictly on "greased line" RobAllen has quite a few good thoughts on skating steelhead. He was kind enough to let me share them with those that are interested.

http://www.redshedflyshop.com/ROBALL...?1204874846000

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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That was a great read Mike...thanks.

I just managed to find a new copy of Bill McMillans Dry Line Steelhead ( with the help of a fellow Speypager) and there is definitely a common theme to the book and Robs thoughts....I am gonna have to start fishing the muddlers a little more frequently

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Talking Paul ..... hint, hint.

"I am gonna have to start fishing the muddlers a little more frequently."

Also fish them off a sink tip ..... killer low water fly year 'round.

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Thanks fellas

Great! thanks guys, now onto the next 9999 mysteries about spey fishing!!
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I just managed to find a new copy of Bill McMillans Dry Line Steelhead ( with the help of a fellow Speypager)
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Hey Paul , I'm glad I could help . It's a great book , eh ! My copy is sitting here on the shelf , which has been read 3 times since I bought it last year Enjoy my friend !


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when you say muddlers is that a mudldler minnow? or something else? dave
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They are speaking of the good old Muddler Minnow, although most of the ones we use for steelheading have been modified some.

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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