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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 02-22-2008, 03:24 AM Thread Starter
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Leadet to T-14

How do you guys connect your leader to a tungsten tip such as T-14. A nail knot or do you make a loop?
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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 02-22-2008, 05:38 AM
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My fellow Alaskan,

You might also try an albright knot. That is my prefered method of connection leader to sink tip. With an albright knot, you don't have to worry about the connection wearing as much.

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I double the T-14 and then nail knot the butt section over that. Before I tighten the knot I slid it very close to the end of the doubled part and run the leader through what is the tiny loop, then tighten the knot.

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I would use the method that Poppy of the Redshed uses...it is called the albright knot. I then finish it with a perfection loop so I can loop on the leader without cutting back the material..all I have to do is add a new length of tippet when it runs short.

Here is a cool link that animates the albright. You will probably also find the perfection loop there too.

http://www.animatedknots.com/albright/index.php

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I double the T-14 and then nail knot the butt section over that. Before I tighten the knot I slid it very close to the end of the doubled part and run the leader through what is the tiny loop, then tighten the knot.
Doing this prevents the coating from slipping off as can (does) happen with a standard nail knot.

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Installing or removing [shorter] pieces of looped T14 is a handy way to increase or decrease your fly depth. I suggest making the T14 loops large enough to engage other T14 loops as well as leader butt material.
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Hello... Al very good advice. I do the same and never had a failure. Although I coat my knots with LOOn Outdoors Knot Sense..
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I just use a three tun 'water/surgeon's' knot'



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I use a three turn surgeon's loop for the butt of the leader, and then loop to loop this to the pre-looped T-14 (or other sinking tip loop).

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Strip off about one inch of the coating. You are now tying mono to mono. A perfection loop works for me. If I wanted to get really fancy, I would make a welded loop. I also have some tips that I have stripped the coating back and attatched a 20lb flouro butt section with a blood knot. Then give it a shot of knot sense.

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I agree with the others, I keep a few different lenghts that I can swap out dending on depth/flow. I loop the T14 then nail knot with 12# and coat with loon to make it less prone to hang-up on the guides. I loop my butt sections the same so I can change out with ease and get back to the water.
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I don't much care for loops in tips, especially a bunch of them looping various sections of T14 together so I have made up various color coded lengths of
T-14 - 6', 7.5', 9', 10.5', 12' and 15' (plus a section of 20' that I really hate to pull out of the wallet).

I attach a short section of 20# or 25# Maxima using an albright and put a double surgeons loop in the butt section then attach my tippet (normally 12#) using a doubled over double surgeons (to give a doubled loop to better seat with the butt section)
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I recently lost a steelhead this season on a broken perfection loop knot. I was using a loop-loop connection. I am thinking of getting rid of all my loop connections and doing this albright knot, which makes a lot of sense.

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Ditto on the albright.

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