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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-30-2016, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
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Best line for SHORT distance?

I love fishing my local water for salmon and steelhead but the stream is only about 30' across at it's widest point and often quite shallow. The fish can also be quite spooky. Last winter I mostly used my 11' 7wt switch and over lined it with a standard wf 9wt line with success but still not feeling like its quite right. A short skagit is way to bulky and long. Any suggestions for a better short tight line set-up that will roll well and turn over nicely for 20-30' max casts with med weight flys?
Maybe a DT ?
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-30-2016, 10:48 PM
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Wulff triangle tapper might be the ticket.

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Switch line

Try a rio switch chucker or a opst head. You could also get a custom line done by Steve godshall. It sounds like you maybe be better off with a single hander at times. The single skagit world is just getting better and better. You never know until you try all your options.

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Couple suggestions:
Wulf Ambush line or
OPST super short head and then use either 10' poly leader, or light mow tips
Just tried out the OPST system on a small local river streamer fishing with a 10' 6 wt. rod and it worked slick.
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Check out the OPST videos on you tube. They have a commando head, they're real short. They fish smaller streams. They also do a lot with SH sustained anchor type casting. Maybe that type of setup would do the trick.

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Short line

Sounds like a single hander with one of the new generation short heads would be tailor made for your situation.--OPST lines are just one of the many options out there.--We all love to cast & swing with our 2 handers, but there is a time for shorter rods and lines.--Again, check out the OPST YouTube videos to see if they might be a good option for you.


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Great... thanks guys!
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Depending of your "med weight fly" using just a 30ft leader and cast like a lure could make casting easy and cause the least line landing disturbance? Sort of a Czech Nymphing system!

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Underline them by the ton. 6wt Ambush on 6wt SH rod creates quite the load and I would not hesitete to use same line on 8wt SH rod. If mono leader is your norm then traditional line or underlined tapered short head (Ambush, Commando, ect) is what you should be using IMO. Or scandi...

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A Royal Wulff Ambush sounds perfect.
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I use a Wulff Ambush on a Sage 7110 for exactly that purpose. Would highly recommend looking into it.
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post #12 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-31-2016, 12:32 PM
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RIO switch line will cast both a short and medium long line with a fairly large (or wind resistant skate/wake) fly. It roll casts well, makes single hand overhead and spey casts - and when necessary, performs acceptably two handed. Pretty versatile, which I like. When fishing short, my preference is either overhead or touch and go spey casts. Sustained anchor disturbs the water too much, IMO.
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I love the Airflo Rage compact on my 2 handed switch rod (Redington Chromer 7116).

It casts thru the wind like a skagit but lands delicately for spooky fish like a scandi.

Mine is overlined with a 8/9 wt Rage line to load better and work better in current.[590x196].jpg
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Nextcast has some sweet compact heads, they also have multi-density heads
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A DT is a good idea. You will probably need a 9 or 10 weight since you will only have some 20 ft outside the rod tip. DTs can also be used for making SHs.

Guideline issued a short SH this year specifically for your purpose. The line is designed for fishing salmon and sea trout on small rivers and streams with singlehanded or switch rods.
The head is called Power Taper Ultra Compact. It ranges from #5/6 at 216 grains and 21.5 ft to #9/10 at 339 grains and 24 ft. I haven't tried them, but the taper should turn long leaders and large flies if needed. You may Google I don't think I'm allowed to leave a link. They have an English version of their website.
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