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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 07-27-2007, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
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Why does my fly always land upriver on casts?

This bothers the heck out of me. Originally I thought it was because I was throwing too far upstream but at times that doesn't seem to matter, My line heads down but my fly lands about 5-10 yards upstream of it...
I'm wondering if wind can have an effect? Or if it's the flies themselves..(mainly marabou)???
My smaller spey 7/8 beulah doesn't seem to have this problem as much as my scott ls-2 1408...Could the line have something to do with it?? Or do I just suck so bad still it's just the learning curve???
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What technique?

What type of situation are you encountering this phenomenon? I suspect the answer will depend on single spey vs double vs other casting method.
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I used to notice this quite a bit as well.
I believe it was caused from lack of line speed.
Work on getting a more energized D loop and a good, positive rod stop on the forward cast.
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I used to notice this quite a bit as well.
I believe it was caused from lack of line speed.
Work on getting a more energized D loop and a good, positive rod stop on the forward cast.

That could well be...I'm not shooting line like Simon thats for sure...the fly does get out there, but it's not that pretty...I am working hard on coming to a stop and higher up so I'm not piling the line into the middle of the river..Ahhh it's a frustrating joy we share..
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Upstream

Paul tilt the rod a little more vertical when casting and with the LS2 a llittle extra on the bottom hand just before the stop. You were doing the same thing that day we spent on the river. Pick one of your setups and stick with it till you get things figured out. The magic bullit is a myth.

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Anchor, maybe?

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Take a look at your anchor. Make sure it is 180 degrees and straight to the target. Make sure you then track back over your anchor. What you described is sometimes casued by both of those above mentioned faults. Line speed is important but making a good straight anchor and tracking will truimp line speed usually in this case. Also, the bottom hand at the stop should stop the butt of the rod making the tip turn over quickly and smartly. Have fun.

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a long leader!!??

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I had the same problem. One tip that help me to find a control line during the back stroke is using very large leaders, for example 6 meters and a wool fly, thats give you more anchor and control. When you have and fill the line control you can cut the leader, for example one meter. In two or tree practises Im sure you can use a normal leader about 4 meters. thats work for me. Regards. dryfly

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Hey Ian,
Sunday was nice down on the lower..was down from wilson but on the otherside about a 1/4 mile....I was fishing "cock handed" Just seems allot easier then going lefty...for whatever reason, it clicked and I was humming some line...had to focus on the tops of the trees to keep the line up and going that way seemed easier to not overpower it but just use the butt more...anyways it was one of those days that was pretty incredable..never went to the skagit line for relief...was loving the delta...fly size seemed more important with that line and I couldn't go big but could use effectively some of the medium sized intruders and the marabo's were fine...I hooked the logs on the other side a couple time and played um till the leader broke.. It sure was fun to feel SoMething on the end for a change...
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