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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-19-2007, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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Hello to all!! I'm entering the world of two handed rods with much ethusiasm. I picked up a sage traditional 8136 rod, I'm looking to get the most out of my learning experience and shorten the curve a little by ensureing that I set this rod up with the most sutible line. I was looking at the Airflo delta 7/8 and 8/9 or the rio windcutter in a 7/8/9 or 8/9/10. what do the GURU's recomend, I appriciate any imput you have. I'm unable to test cast or borrow any lines due to my location. Thanks for all the great info on this forum!!

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I would choose the WC 8/9/10

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I would go with the Windcutter 8/9/10 also
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fishing tips or dryline only?

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One frequently overlooked benefit of the RIO is that as your casting evolves, you may want a little longer head. (Length that is...)
With the RIO system you can replace Tip 2, 15', with a Windcutter Upgrade, which is 30' in length.
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Up grades for Windcutters

True.
However they seem to be fairly available at shops specializing in two handed rod casting.
Red Shed has some, last I looked as does River Run Anglers...last I looked
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fishing tips or dryline only?
Both dry and tips. I spoke with a few shops in BC and one recomended the Airflo Delta 8/9 floating cut back 6ft and make or buy tips as needed, any thoughts on this senario idea? thanks for the imput. Does anybody cast the sage trad. 8136 on the forum?
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So if you will be fishing it with both dryline or tips you have a decision to make:
do you want only one line?

if so you will have to compromise as the best line for one is not the other.

If tips are type 6 or faster and flies are big I would suggest you try a skagit line(rio 550 w/5' cheater) would turn you into an instant hero. Possible to fish this rig with a dry tip but dry fly fishing with a line of this type lacks soul.

as a straight up dryline the 7/8 delta would give you amazing performance ansd load the rod nicely when working with the whole head.

If you want to cut a delta for tips I would probably suggest you take the 8/9 and go back to 17' from the tip. Problem is you will now have a line that is a little on the heavy side optimum casting performance and dryline fishing as well as a set of loops 17' into the head. With a longer leader(15') fished dry line this puts a bump in your line just over 30' from the fish. This connection will be through the guides many times in the course of playing a fish.

Perhaps you should consider a shooting head system or an extra spool, otherwise you will be making a compromise of some sort.


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One of the things that is often overlooked when considering those wincutter "upgrades" is the additional weight added to a line that is otherwise optimized for your rod. That aside, I have found the heaviest windcutter upgrade with a ten to fifteen ft sink tip makes a decent Skagit head.

Two other lines you might want to try are the CND GPS line. And the Nextcast Winter Authority. Both are looped at about twenty feet so you can replace the floating tip with a sink tip of your choice. The WA line is a head only.

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So if you will be fishing it with both dryline or tips you have a decision to make:
do you want only one line?

if so you will have to compromise as the best line for one is not the other.

If tips are type 6 or faster and flies are big I would suggest you try a skagit line(rio 550 w/5' cheater) would turn you into an instant hero. Possible to fish this rig with a dry tip but dry fly fishing with a line of this type lacks soul.

as a straight up dryline the 7/8 delta would give you amazing performance ansd load the rod nicely when working with the whole head.

If you want to cut a delta for tips I would probably suggest you take the 8/9 and go back to 17' from the tip. Problem is you will now have a line that is a little on the heavy side optimum casting performance and dryline fishing as well as a set of loops 17' into the head. With a longer leader(15') fished dry line this puts a bump in your line just over 30' from the fish. This connection will be through the guides many times in the course of playing a fish.

Perhaps you should consider a shooting head system or an extra spool, otherwise you will be making a compromise of some sort.


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My idea was originally to run one line for both to try and keep my costs down, however you have confirmed my suspicions that this is not the best case senario. I think I'll try and work two lines into my budget. Thanks for your help. I have the delta floating already so I'll focus on a wet line set up. CHEERS!!!
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The skagit will be your quickest and easist casting rig for tips no doubt. I liken it to that oversized bat your parents gave you when you were a kid so you could hit the ball. The skagit is not necessarrily the best fishing line due to the excessive amount of weight in the head. It is however the easiest and quickest solution. I would suggest you get your new line as head only with seperate runningline. This will leave the door open to try new heads as your casting improves.

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Thanks again guys! I was planning on picking up a set of WC 8/9/10 tips from SSPEY are these suitable tips for the Rio skagit 550gr. Cheers!!

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Well, I agree with Brian also, up to a point. That being said the original post made no mention of tips nor big flies. The OP was asking about the most suitable line. To me that means the most versatile line, floating line, sinktips, summer, fall, winter, spring, go anywhere, and a general selection of flies.

In my opinion for a newer caster that would be a short head spey line. While I personally slightly favor the Delta multi-tip for my personal fishing I give the WC VersiTip a slight edge at being the all around versatile king because the center section can be removed to make a pretty fair shooting head if one has the desire to use it.

Mac19, The WC tips your getting from SSpey will work quite well for your skagit application.

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