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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-07-2007, 11:34 PM Thread Starter
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Question Underhand Casting

Ok so my underhand cast is coming together nicely. I have watched the Perfect Cast so many times I am starting to talk to myself like Henrik when I'm on the water. ...freaky... I need to stop that.

I'm having a little trouble rotating my body and getting a nice V or D loop when I am going from the dangle and attempting to cast greater than about 50-60 degrees. Right now 90 degrees (across the river) is out of the question. I can't seem to figure out what I need to do to keep from violating the 180 degree principle. Any hints?

Mike
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-08-2007, 09:13 AM
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One hint

Simon had in the RIO DVD was to aim the backcast like you flip a frisby 180 degrees from the direction of the forward cast.

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post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-08-2007, 02:01 PM
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Scandinavian-Style Single Spey

Hi Mike,

See if this helps when you are trying for a big angle change on a Scandinavian-style Single Spey:

1). Lift the line at the dangle. The goal is to clear most, if not all, of the shooting head from the water.

2). Pivot with the hips first and keep your arms locked as you do so. Keep your right foot forward from the left bank as it prevents over-rotation.

3). Throw the rear loop/Spey back cast with your arms as late as you can.

4). Make the cast.

Ultimately, you want to blend Steps #2 and #3 together. It is deceiving when you watch a very good Speycaster: it looks like they are doing most of the work with their arms, when, in fact, their hips initiate the turn with a Single Spey and the arms are reserved for the actual Spey backcast.

As always, it is best to work towards a large angle change with a Single Spey in small slices; don't try to go for it all at once. Incremental gain is good.

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post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-08-2007, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks

I'll give that a try tomorrow. I spent todays session just working on my loop and starting to work on my off hand (right hand up).
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post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-09-2007, 01:28 AM
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Okisutch,

I suggest that you buy the DVD entitled "Spey to Z". IMHO, Topher's segment on the Scandinavian style cast is the clearest of any of the instructional videos I have watched -- and I have watched virtually all of them, including Mortensen's. After watching Topher, I was able to go out and use what he taught to make decent casts with a sinking head the first time on the river. That is really saying something since my two-handed casting skills leave more than something to be desired.
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post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-10-2007, 04:08 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks Gents.

Nasty weather today. I went out and picked up Spey to Z and I'll check that out for a while this afternoon. It was 90 degrees here in Boise yesterday. Today it has dropped to 54 with thunderstorms and we are now under a small stream flood watch.

Maybe I'll get down to the river this evening.

Mike
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