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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 04-16-2007, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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Question Which rod is most versitile?

Howdy. Im looking to try out some two handed fishing. Been single handing it for years but am intrigued by the double handed stuff.

My question is as follows below I plan on fishing a tidal river with the rod. Some of the time will be drifting flatwings in the current and some will be overhead casting into the surf. Im going to guess that there are individual rods designed to do these specific tasks. I dont want to buy two rods. What therefore is the most versatile rod (length and weight) which would allow me to do both effectively, perhaps not ideally, but at least effectively?

With respect to line weights I typically use here they range from 5 9 depending on the wind. As you might expect the closer one gets to the mouth of the river the more rod one needs. I would say that if I had to use just one weight here with a one hander it would be a med fast to fast action 8 wt.

Sorry if this has been asked before. I looked around but did not find this specific question.

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The first thing I wondered when reading your post was which line system you're referring to...it sounds like you're talking about AFTMA. Spey lines usually run about two line weights heavier.

It sounds like you're looking for a relatively shorter and lighter spey rod, probably in the 10.5-12.5' range for a 5/6/7 weight spey line. As there is quite a difference between a 10.5' 5/6 and a 12.5' 7wt, I strongly suggest getting hands on.

Personally, if limited to one rod for that need, I'd fish my Meiser 11/7" 5/6/7. If you're really talking 5 wt though, I'd look at getting a rod matched to the primary use. For instance, I'd be tempted to try out the TFO 11' 5wt for light stuff, but for light to medium surf work, I'd want a faster stick. This is the purpose of the Switch Rod, conceptualized by Bob Meiser and made both by him and by Beulah. I also like the Scott 2-hand Assist Special (10'8" 8wt AFTMA) (but the butt is too short for bottom hand). Cabelas makes an 11' 8wt FT (AFTMA) that I'd be tempted to build a bottom handle for. I've fished surf with 13' rods, and you could meet both needs with more length, but the extra length forces you to a beefier butt to have a quick enough rod. That beefy a rod will likely be too much for your lighter work. When you talk to rod makers, I suggest talking about the grain weight and line types you want to fish with each presentation.

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I would recommend any of the T&T 2 handers 1107, 1307, 1208, 1212 (AFTM), 1309, 1409. All are fast action rods with very crisp actions, well suited for overhead.
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post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old 04-16-2007, 04:44 PM
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Although there are many 2-handed rods on the market that would work for your specific application (including the T&T's, Scott, and TFO mentioned above) I'd recommend calling or dropping Bob Meiser and email or private message because he not only is a superb 2-hand rod designer and builder, he has a lot of experience fishing 2-handers in the surf at river mouths. Therefore, Meiser would be able to make you a rod that will suit your purposes to a "T". Nothing substitutes for the experience of a knowledgeable rod designer who uses his rods for the same thing.
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in that situation (having myself fished a number of tidal New England rivers in a previous life) ...

if overhead was 80% of casting, I'd get an 11' - 11'6" rod

if spey was 80% of casting, I'd get a 12'6" - 13' rod

the most versatile length for my tastes being 11'6" - 12'6". A person can certainly spey cast shorter rods, and overhead longer ones, too.

to find a rod with the power of an 8 wt single hander, inspect the RIO line chart for rods that take an Outbound 9 wt overhead.

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