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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-07-2007, 01:31 PM Thread Starter
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Hang Down

I have been fly fishing for 55+ years and learning to spey cast at 72 is a blast. I need someone to stamp out my ignorance on hang down. In Spey to Z Topher Browne addresses hang down very clearly--about 1 yard. However, Greg Pearson doesn't address hang down, but I am assuming it is the same for his Skagit casting as it is for Browne's Scandinavian casting. Affirmation of this assumption will be appreciated, or other tutoring that will put me straight on Skagit hang down. This spey casting is an incredible discovery for me and I will be on the Skeena system this Fall giving it all this old geezer can muster. Thanks for the help.

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-07-2007, 07:51 PM
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Hang down is hang down

Now matter what the method of casting, hang down is when the fly stops swinging back towards your bank. Or, to put it another way, whenever you feel you have gotten all you can out of the swing and are ready to step down and cast again.

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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-07-2007, 08:02 PM Thread Starter
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JD, Topher defined hang down as the amount of running line hanging down from your rod tip behind the skagit head prior to beginning your cast, whichever one you have chosen to execute. He stated that it should be in the range of 1 yard of running line outside the tip of the rod. This as different from your explanation of the swung fly hanging directly downstream at the end of a cast just prior to the beginning of another cast. Hope this makes sense.

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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-07-2007, 08:20 PM
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Salmoed,
What you're refering to as "hang down" is probably more commonly refered to as "overhang." Hope that clears up some confusion.
I think that the amount of overhang is dependent on each person's own preferences. Some like more and others like less. Good luck.
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Salmoed, What you describe as "hang down" some of us call "overhang". Merely a difference in terms. The amount of overhang will depend on the casters skill and personal whim. With the skagit head try it @ a yard and very to suit your personal taste.

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JD, Topher defined hang down as the amount of running line hanging down from your rod tip behind the skagit head prior to beginning your cast, whichever one you have chosen to execute. He stated that it should be in the range of 1 yard of running line outside the tip of the rod. This as different from your explanation of the swung fly hanging directly downstream at the end of a cast just prior to the beginning of another cast. Hope this makes sense.

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Now matter what the method of casting, hang down is when the fly stops swinging back towards your bank. Or, to put it another way, whenever you feel you have gotten all you can out of the swing and are ready to step down and cast again.
is not so confused when using 'the dangle' for the fly position at the end of the swing, rather than 'hang down'. Can get some brutal takes, mostly missed hook-ups, with the fly right at the end of the swing & just before retreive & recast.

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post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-08-2007, 02:37 AM
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Hang Down vs Overhang

Salmoed, no disrespect meant, but, for the sake of accuracy, I am going to play Lloyd Bentsen here.

I know the Spey to Z DVD, I own the Spey to Z DVD, and Topher Browne does not call it Hang Down on the DVD. He calls it Overhang, and devotes a titled section ("Overhang") to explaining it as, paraphrasing, the amount of running/shooting line between the rod tip and the shooting (Scandinavian) head. Overhang is the generally accepted term for that.

Hang Down is the generally accepted alternate term for "The Dangle," the line hanging down below the angler in the current after the swing of the fly.

Check your Spey to Z DVD again.


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Overhang

Besides the casters preference to 'feel' the optimal amount o overhang depends a lot on the choice of running line. The better the running line ransfers energy the more you can 'hang. The more you hang the better up to the sweet spot.

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