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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-28-2016, 07:22 PM Thread Starter
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Orvis spey results

Went out with an instructor today to learn a little about spey swinging. The instructor was Jeff Liskay. Outstanding instructor from Ohio. We tried 10 different skagit heads on the Orvis Clearwater 12' 6" 6 weight spey rod. Looks like the 540 grain to 580 skagit heads worked the best on this rod. I was able to cast the line a considerable distance with the double spey and the Snap t casts. I was amazed how heavy a head this rod could handle with ease. We also used 10 foot of sink tip. The Beaulah 10'4" 6 weight like the 420 grain switch chucker line. My buddy has a Helios 2 11' 7 weight and it also bombs the Rio switch chucker line. Due yourself a favor and take a lesson from Jeff. He will help you dual in your spey/or switch correct line for you. You will save you a ton over trying all the lines out there .JEFF has every line known to man to try. I also learned how to cast properly. Thanks Jeff--Earl
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Good choice

Jeff Liskay is a VERY fishy dude.. with a true passion. I'd endorse him all day / any day.

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I was amazed at all the lines we tried. The lines that worked weren't even close to what the factory suggested. Never really know what lines works for you until you try them. He has every line known to man to try.
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Awesome you had a positive experience. Always good to hear that!

I have a Helios switch in 5w and a Helios Spey in 7w 13ft

The switch is good @ 270-325

The Spey at 13ft 7w excels at 400grans and a tip maximum. I can get away with 360 but that Rod doesn't enjoy much over my 400 flight and a 9ft tip

I can't even relate to throwing 500-585 grains on a 12'6 6w. Is the cast super slow? I could be wrong but I thought most owners here dialed the Orvis Clearwater in at 400?

Forgive me but isn't six weight territory window 360-420? Or are the manufacturers that different? All of mine seem to be on par with:

5w 300-350
6w 360-420
7w 390-450

Meiser puts 200 grain Windows on his rods but if anyone has tested that window shou,d know in most cases it includes the tip in my experience.

Curious what the rest of you think . . . obviously not an exact science by any means
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The orvis spey rod is supers stiffs . Don't know if the blank was mismarked. The rod just likes the heavy lines. We would have not ever known it unless we tried many lines. YES 6 weight is usually 360 to 420 lines, I just due normal cast and it bombs the line. Go to show what a good instructor will fine out.
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I find this to be the case with my Redington Prospector 12'6" 6 weight also. Started at the recommended 450 skagit and could not feel it. Now
at 525 and getting results. These "mid market" rods are stiff and it takes a heavy pay load to get them going for sustained anchor casts.
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There is a new Orvis Clearwater Clearwater spey rod 12'6" 6 weight on ebay right now with warranty. It did not sell the first time. Its going cheap. Its a great rod for the money. The rod can easy handle eastern steelhead and trout.
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Another big thumbs up for Jeff. He has helped me tremendously.
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Spey rods often require some trial and error line testing to fit, even when they are correctly labeled, as most of them are. Occasionally, we find a rod that is clearly something else than the labeling. Then we have to decide whether to try to get a refund or exchange, or whether the rod is useful to us in different situations.

Yours seems to be clearly an 8-weight. There are uses for short 8-weights, such as when the water is usually small, but the fish may not be. I have a T&T 12 foot 8-weight that is proving to be great for fishing small winter steelhead and salmon streams, and where thick growth and water depth keeps me fishing close to the near bank.
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