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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-25-2007, 08:22 AM Thread Starter
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I need some help with my technique - please advise

Alright, I am new to the speycasting world and since I just relocated to Kansas from Michigan, I can't call on other anglers for help and there are no guides/instructors around here to help either.

Anyways, here is my basic situation: What position should I be casting to for the most effective swing? My normal flyfishing (single hand rod) and spincasting techniques tell me position numbers 1 and 2. However, these seem like awfully diffucult casts with the spey rod. Should I be using another position for the spey rod? Or do I need to work on my casting to effectively cast to position 1 and 2.


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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-25-2007, 09:14 AM
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Direction of cast...

Speycasting should be easier to cast to position 1 (90 degrees angle compared to bankside) & 2 compared to single-handed overhead casting, as Speycasting techniques need less room behind you to make the cast.

However, the determination of position to cast to is not specific to Speycasting, but is determined by 1. where your fish are in relation to where you are standing, and 2. what type of line & fly you are trying to swing.

If you are fishing a surface of floating line, and floating or just subsurface fly, then it is probably better to make a cast between 60 and 45 degrees for a nicer swing.

If you are wanting the fly to get down to the fish, with a sinking tip line & sinking fly, it is usually better to make the cast between 90 and 60 degrees, so that the fly gets down before it starts to swing.

If the fish are lying 90 degrees across river from your standing position and you 'need' to make a cast less than 90 degrees, obviously you need to reposition yourself further upstream for the cast.


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post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-25-2007, 03:09 PM
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Most of my fishing would be 3-6, but it all depends on water speed, depth, temp, and name your other factors.

In a perfect world I'd be casting to 5 and 6 all day long but that's not practial. Good news is that there's a Spey cast of every one of these depending on the direction of wind.

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check out the "getting down" thread under Technique for some good info on this
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Question What can I say?

I think you've pretty much got it figured out. With the exception of trying to adapt spin casting techniques to fish pos 1 & 2.

For a beginner, trying to make those wide angle casts of 90 degrees are more difficult than say a 45 degree cast. And even though it would require more distance in the cast to put the fly in the same place, you might find it less frustrating to back up river and cast at a shallower angle.

Wait a minute. Did I get this right? You relocated from Michigan to Kansas? And you want to learn to swing flies on a Spey rod???? Oh well... No wonder you are having trouble finding help. I would suggest studying two DVDs. Rio's Modern Spey Casting. And John Hazels DVD. (Can't remember the title. Someone help me out here)

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