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im VERY very new to spey but very interested, i can cast pretty well with my single handed rods, but want to step up to a spey for the larger rivers around here, my first question is what line to buy, i dont know much about the bellies, tapers, multi tips or any of that, what is the best to buy for learning how to fish with a spey rod, ive got a 13' 8/9 wt in the process of being built right now, but have no clue what to buy in terms of line, thanks
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First question is your intended use? Atlantic salmon, steelhead? Winter steelhead in PNW or Great Lakes? Bass? Saltwater? Floating lines or sinking (including tips)? Big rivers, small/medium sized rivers?
All will have some impact on your choice(s).
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First question is your intended use? Atlantic salmon, steelhead? Winter steelhead in PNW or Great Lakes? Bass? Saltwater? Floating lines or sinking (including tips)? Big rivers, small/medium sized rivers?
All will have some impact on your choice(s).
eventually salmon(atlantic), steelhead, bass, both lines, and small/medium rivers, sorry its so broad, but im gonna use spey on everything i can...hmm wonder if i can chase brookies with a spey rod?
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I would go with a "Mid"spey (60-70') head short enough to learn on but allows plenty of room to grow. RIO has a nice setup.
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I agree that any of the mid-spey length lines is probably the best choice. There are many good lines from all the manufacturers. You'll have to decide, though, whether or not you'll need sink-tips. If you're just fishing "fair weather" summer Atlantic salmon, or summer steelhead, a floater will probably be all you'll need. If, however, you intend to fish very early season (high water) salmon, or winter steelhead, you'll probably want the option of tips.
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Ditchmonkey....I started out learning on the mid-spey line and had some troubles. Then I cast my buddy's Windcutter (Rio) and had a much better go. I would suggest the Windcutter for the ease of learning. If you are thinking about something with a longer belly, I prefer the Airflo Delta (65 ft. head) to the mid-spey. Good luck.-------'Hoss
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should be 65 feet or so, it depends a little on the weight. The deltas run from 51' for the 5/6 to 57 feet for the 11/12.

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eventually salmon(atlantic), steelhead, bass, both lines, and small/medium rivers, sorry its so broad, but im gonna use spey on everything i can...hmm wonder if i can chase brookies with a spey rod?
Back to the intended use. First of all, Spey rods, or maybe I should say Spey lines are not about delicate presentaions. They come down like a rock! But on big rivers, where you cast across and swing the fly to the fish, it doesn't matter. And because of the reel placement, they are not as well suited to stripping presentations. Bass bugs on still water? Better suited to a single hander. Brookies? I doubt it. Trout Spey? A 13' 8/9 is a bit much for that.

I think if I were in your shoes, I would go with a full floating windcutter. You can always cut and loop it later on to make it a "tips" line. A windcutter tips line will set you back $140, or more. A floater is a whole lot less. Meanwhile, until needed, that money is better off in the bank.

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Back to the intended use. First of all, Spey rods, or maybe I should say Spey lines are not about delicate presentaions. They come down like a rock! But on big rivers, where you cast across and swing the fly to the fish, it doesn't matter. And because of the reel placement, they are not as well suited to stripping presentations. Bass bugs on still water? Better suited to a single hander. Brookies? I doubt it. Trout Spey? A 13' 8/9 is a bit much for that.

I think if I were in your shoes, I would go with a full floating windcutter. You can always cut and loop it later on to make it a "tips" line. A windcutter tips line will set you back $140, or more. A floater is a whole lot less. Meanwhile, until needed, that money is better off in the bank.
my main use for this is gonna be actually for pike on the delaware river in pennsylvania, and some of our larger areas around the shenandoah around here at home, im also hoping on hitting up rivers around erie, and doing some striper fishing as well, ive got a rio grandspey on the way from bc, would this be a good first line, its a forecast blank, being made by a good friend, fast action
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The Island of NL. has plenty of small to med. size rivers and this seems to be the size of alot of rivers your going to fish, If you ever get into atlantic salmon odds are you will not be useing tips. the grand spey has a 100' head, Loading and learning how to manage line properly on that thing is not going to make spey fishing a veary nice experience for you.

"JD" is right that stripping line for Pike is not quite suted to spey fishing, I've caught pike on a spey rod, I've caught mackerel off the coast of Labrador! on a spey rod, it's fun, But rather go about doing so with my single hander.

If money is not so much an issue, go with the "windcutter" or a line with a shorter head length, Easy loading, and would aid in propelling those large pike flys, A great line to learn to cast with. But if money becomes an issue and your not willing to dish out another $100 bucks on a new line to try out
Go with a MID. head length line (60-70') if you want to try spey casting for everything. If I hade one spey line for the rest of my life it would be a 60-70' head or "Midspey",Loads easy, handels tips, propels large flys, I started out on a midspey and fished 45-55 feet of line but now when the need asises i'll shoot 100'+, it is your "All Around" spey line. AS for your grandspey, I would think about sending that one back or selling/tradeing it for now,just my .02.

Best of luck with it all, Hope it works out for you!

Mitch.
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I got started with a windcutter and a 14' Cabela home made spey rod and was quite pleased with the progress I made in a short time. After several years like that I did try some other lines and also went to a 12.5 TFO 8 weight rod which I now prefer. But on lines, except for an Orvis DT10 which I like for some situations, I still prefer Windcutter. While the Airflo delta line I tried didn't match as well with my rods, I understand this line is just the ticket for some rods. So you might want to consider that also. Just my 2 cents.
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