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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-31-2006, 09:57 PM Thread Starter
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Help on VT2 outfit

I am new to the spey scene, but am planning on taking the plunge and investing in a rig for a trip up to the Skeena Tribs and other larger systems out west(possibly Yakoon, Thompson ect.....). After a little research I'm leaning towards a 8 wt Sage VT2. As for reels and lines I would appreciate some direction for something suited for fall/winter steel and the odd bycatch coho and King. I'm a University student and am dirty poor, so something that won't bust the wallet would be nice. I also dont know what type of cast would be best for winter steel and would appreciate some direction to resources that will reduce the learning curve. You guys seem damn knowledgable and any help would be sweet
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Before laying out any hard earned cash I highly recommend you find a spey casting instructor and take some lessons and learn the basic casts. After some practice mastering the basics I recommend you try as many line and rod combinations as possible to figure out what fits you, your style and your needs the best. If you can, find a spey clave in your area and go! The knowledge and opportunity to get hands on experience is second to none.

Welcome to the spey addiction!

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I can agree with Gator on some lessons. Here are some thoughts on the tackle you ask about.

The VT 2-8139-4 is a pretty nice rods. I think it will serve your purpose well.

As to reels, there are a great many out there. A few that seem to balance that rod nicely and priced in the middle are the Lamsom Velocity 4 ($275.00)
Lamson Radius 4 ($219.00), Tioga 12 ($170.00), and the
Cortland Endurance 3 ($110.00).

For lines I would choose the WindCutter 8/9/10 VersiTip or a Rio Skagit 550 with a 5' 8/9/10 cheater.

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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Thanks guys.

Lessons would be sweet, but I live on the most Northern tip of Lake Superior (Thunder Bay Ont.) , and persons within an 8 hour radius with any spey experience are limited to a handful of guys who may use a spey rig a week out of the year. Do you guys know anyone kickin around these parts? If I cannot hook up some lessons, than books and movies will probably be the route for me...... any tips?
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Ummmmm

I did a little more diggin around and found some other options rod wise. The VT2 was highly recommended, but I'd like to hear what you guys think about these other sticks. And it appears like I'll be attempting to learn the circle and double spey casts first, with a Rio 8/9/10 windcutter,and fishing Northern B.C. Steelhead, and GL Chinooks
The sticks:
CDN....Expert 9/10
Loop Black.....9/10
Echo classic 8/9.....
or would you suggest I lay down more cash and look at the ....
CND Black
Loomis Devron, or Kispiox
Loop Blue
Sage VT2
what you guys think?
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All will work if lined correctly.

I'm sorry to be so vague in regarding specifics, but it really is such an individual thing. A balanced outfit is the key.

Check out the "silver bullet" thread regarding spending more in order to achieve greater casting success...

Take care,
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Which rod do I buy?

...............If there is any way you can try a couple of rods before you start spending money,you will be better off. Not only will you learn about rods,but also lines. It is awfully easy to end up with equipment that you don't like. Having said that,I own several Loop rods,three of which are in the Blue series. Two 11.5',and a 14',and they are great casting,and fishing rods. Close in or far out,sinktips or T-14,makes no difference. They are all 4 piece,they will fit in any trunk,and you can pick them up at a reasonable price. You want to buy tackle that you can grow in to,not out of. Good Luck,and Have Fun!!
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CDN....Expert 9/10
Loop Black.....9/10
Echo classic 8/9.....
or would you suggest I lay down more cash and look at the ....
CND Black
Loomis Devron, or Kispiox
Loop Blue
Sage VT2
what you guys think?
I can tell you that your first 3 choices are very good and priced right. These rods are very affordable, work very well, and come with a "NO BS" fast turn around warranty. The last 4 are pretty great rods as well but cost considerably more and as you said you are on a tight budget.

I would advise you to figure out realisticly what you can spend as your first step. To my way of thinking it is pointless to try tackle completely out of your price range if you are looking to get a setup as opposed to window shopping. I also agree with "spey machine" about casting as many models as you can if at all possible. We are all different as to size, ability, and personal thoughts on what we want so we really can't tell you "buy this one and you will become a jedi". There really aren't any bad spey rods when matched with the right lines.

If there are no local shops where you can get a test drive that makes it harder. If you are on a tight budget I know it is possible to get a balanced turn key multi tip outfit for $450.00usd and get a test drive included in the deal.

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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Loop Black & Blueline rods are perfect for beginners. They are very forgivving and easy to cast.

Try them out... and buy... try a matching Adapted shootinghead...

yeah rock´n roll

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If you're not able to find anyone locally to give you hands on expertise then do try the books and videos. I personally don't know of any spey shop that won't bend over backwards to try to help you out. You just might have to do things via the net or mail. Try finding some shops in your part of the country that might send you a trial set-up for you to try.

There is always a way to the end result, you just might have to go about a little different then some...

I just noticed there is a speyclave scheduled in Sept. 10 for the uppermidwest. I don't know how far away from that you might be, but consider it anyways


Thanks and tight lines,


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If cost is an issue, try the Temple Fork doublehanders -they are one of the nicest casting "deals" out there. Personaly I would go with the VT2 - I am buisy building up the VT2 7130-4, to be honest I have to admit to owning over 2 dozen (a few single handers thrown in) Sages as well as half a dozen of Meiz's rods.
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Superior Steel,

MJC is being quite politically correct, let me speak a little more bluntly for him. His shop, Red Shed - a long time Spey Pages sponsor - is quite famous for providing "test drives". By all means, contact him and take advantage of his extraordinary customer service! You can PM him or contact him by going to the Spey Pages Sponsors link.

Tight lines - tyler.

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