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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 05-31-2006, 03:22 PM Thread Starter
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Newbie Double-Spey Question

Am totally hooked on Spey casting! I have been out about a half dozen times since finishing my Forecast 13' rod and am loving it, but also experincing all the joys of a beginner trying to learn without an instructor!

My question regards the Double Spey from either the left or right bank.

During the forward stroke the line and fly always seems to be dangerously close to me and my rod- even when I have the fly downstream where it should be after the upstream mend. Sometimes it all seems like it is going to come together and the line gets it out there, but I am developing a phobia of getting smacked with each cast.

This is happening consistently enough that I thought it could be a common error I am not seeing in my cast.

Thanks for any input....I am using a 13' Forecast with RIO WC 8/9/10 and only the floating head for now.

One other question?

Any suggestions on fly size and leader length during the learning curve?
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Happens to me when I'm in a rush. Slow down a bit and think of "out, then in" when you bring the line around into the 180 degree position prior to the forward stroke. Also, start with the line further out in the river, meaning when you lift the belly of the line from the downstream position to the upstream position keep the rod tip lower (by a matter of degrees) and out in the river. When you swing round it's "out around you, then in bringing the tip up" to form the D.

Practice placing the line on the first half of the cast and the second half will come, but I always thing out (around me) then in along my 180 degree line and up with the tip.

My leader for practice has always been a 12' handmade Gary Selig Salar with a florocarbon butt, but the RIO tapered leader cut back works well too. Just a small half inch piece of glo bug yarn for the fly is all I use.

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a couple of possible problems. when you swing around to form teh D loop keep teh rod canted at an angle - if it is almost vertical at teh end of teh D loop formation, you will pull the line in close to your body.

If you are trunking - pushing out the bottom hand too much and maybe breaking the upper hand wrist you may be swinging the tip around behind you (a lot of folks can do the same thing with a single handed rod back cast by rotating the hand so the rod tip rotates so it is positioned behind your head - this will bring the forward cast right over your head. Concentrate on keeping the rod path flat and straight back and out a bit to the side - if you break your wrist to rod tip will rotatebehind you.
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Thumbs up Extra points for the Rickster.

Rick's 'right on the money.' What you've discribed is the 'spey version' of the "tailing loop." Remember the rod tip is a 'gun site,' where you 'aim' it is where the line is going to follow. (And so is that #4 hook!! We all have patchs on the back side of our chest wader due to this 'little problem.')

Coming forward you need the rod tip off 10-15 degrees from your body to keep the line/hook away from you.
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