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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 05-09-2006, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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I spent last night on the left bank doing the single spey, I had fun. I have 2 questions. A lot of the time was spent tearing line off the water but every now and then I got it half right.
1. If the cast is close to being right is it some what effortless? Not sure how to describe it but when I was not tearing line off the water and I had a good cast, I felt that I was using less energy.
2. Are there any tips on how to make a hard stop on the forward cast? This was never my strong point with a single handed rod and it isn't any easier with a two handed rod. I always seem to follow through to early.

On a lighter note. To bad they couldn't add "spey" to the spell checker in this thing.
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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 05-09-2006, 01:11 PM
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Smile "Spey" spelling

"On a lighter note. To bad they couldn't add "spey" to the spell checker in this thing" (Quote)

I know at least one other way to spell the word!!

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post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old 05-10-2006, 08:21 AM
 
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Leo,

When trying to rip to much line from the water it will certainly take a lot more effort than when the last couple of feet just kiss the water and go. I would liken it to a good golf swing (if you play) you can hardly feel the sweetest shots. If you are still using a windcutter it takes just minimal effort to cast the head and say30' of running line. Sadly its all in the timing.
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post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old 05-15-2006, 07:51 PM
 
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Hi Leo

I am new to the sport also and am still learning the casts. For all its subtlety the Single Spey is my favorite cast, when I can get it to work. It shoots the most line (of the casts I know) it barely kisses the water if done right and just feels good. I would much rather use this cast than a snap T, if I can. Since I don't golf, I would liken it more to free throws - it's got a proportionate power quotient as well as timing that must be mastered. Sometimes I get in a zone and all my casts sail out there, sometimes I'm batting only .500. Kinda like a jump shot or free throws. (Even NBA players can't hit 100%).

One thing it doesn't have is tearing line off the water...its more of a lift, splash, shoot. and yes if done right it should feel effortless.

Another thing to think about if you're just learning...Have you cast many rods or experimented with many lines? The reason why I ask, is I changed lines on my rod, an 8/9. I changed to a WC 7/8/9 from an 8/9/10. The result was amazing, much better casts and much better percentages when it comes to suceesful delivery. ...now If I can just learn to do it left handed...

I also test cast a guy's rod I met on the river and I couldn't make his rig work for me. It was a much slower rod, but I have a feeling his line was mismatched as well..

Another thing to think about is there is more than one way to do this cast. I learned a version from Simon Gawseworth's book Spey Casting: he calls it the 'Alpine Spey'. It is a down and dirty quick way to learn. The other way is a much flatter, more powerful version that requires better timing and a carefully calculated initial lift, but it goes out farther and requires less effort if done right. When the flatter version is not clicking for me I find that I can always revert to the Simon's Alpine Spey and keep fishing. A few succesful Alpine Speys, and I'm ready to try the advanced version again.

Anyway keep working at it and if its not clicking, think about changing something in you rig...you could be fighting something you don't need to fight..


my .01...

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I'll just 'address' your #2 above. The lack of a firm stop will screw up more casts than anything else I can think of at the moment. Three suggestions: Thumb on top of the rod, keep your elbow firmly at your side (until you get the stop under control) and 'aim/stop' your rod tip at 10:00 o'clock on the forward cast.

The first and second (which may/will feel very odd) are to help you stop 'breaking your wrist,' the third is to help you keep your rod 'loaded' at the end of the cast. As with (to over simplify) single handed casts, the "10 and 2 'rule'" reasonably applies with a 2-hander.



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