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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-23-2006, 12:40 PM Thread Starter
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My first day on the water with a spey rod. The only instruction to this point is videos and books. I am right handed and lets forget about wind for now.
If I am on the right bank (water flowing left to right) I would do either a right handed double spey or a left handed single spey? The exact opposite for the left bank? On the right bank the only way to do a right handed single spey would be back handed? Which is the easier single spey for a right handed person on the right bank? Do I have any of this right? Thanks for any help.
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Yes you have it right. for some it is easier to do the reverse or backhand single but for me I could not get my head wrapped around the reverse casts so I cast right and left handed. The single spey is the cast I use the least preferring to use the snap T or circle C. I also prefer the snake roll to the double spey.



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Which is the easier single spey for a right handed person on the right bank? Thanks for any help.
You have it all pretty straight Leo. I would however suggest that the Easiest single for a right handed person on the right bank is a left hand single. If you start off switching hands you will be amazed at how quickly you will become comfortable with the left hand up. I cannot stress this strongly enough.

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Hi Leo,

I would agree with both previous replies in terms of using left and right hand up. When you do a left bank right hand up single spey, pay attention to the motion you're doing, then try to mimic exactly from the other bank with your left hand up. This gives you somewhat of a mental note as to what you should be doing with the left hand up. I'd also suggest to do it slow (don't force or push the rod) with a short line (4/5 the head of the line or so). Don't worry about shooting line until your loops are clean and turning over strait (not collapsing to the side).

If you do a reverse cast a little tip would be to concentrate on pushing away from your face on the forward stroke. This will help keep your forward stroke strait.

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Muckle Salmon You Are Right

Tonight was my second time out on the river with a spey rod. I had a lot of fun, I might actually learn to cast this thing. The only bank I can cast from now is the right bank. I played around with the double spey, snake roll and the single spey (I am right handed) with the left hand up. It started to become very easy. One of the videos I have it states to hold the rod with a light grip. I remembered this part way through the evening and I could not belive it, the rod seemed to come to life. The rod was loading much easier and with less effort and the left hand up was very comfortable. Thanks Muckle, I could still be trying the right, hand backhanded.
Another odd thing. With a single handed rod I am usually good for a few casting knots in my leader. Tonight I never had a one.
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right hand, left hand

What I have found is that, over the years we all have developed a certain amount of muscle memory when using our dominate hand. In this case, dominate hand up. Like when you had a firm grip on the rod. You had to concentrate on lightening up your grip. You unconsciously do what feels natural. Which, of course, is not always the correct way.

When you switch hands, you're a complete dummy, so to speak. Your hands & arms don't just automatically do anything. Rather, you have to concentrate. As a result, the hands will do what the brain commands without question because there is no muscle memory to get in the way.

Although a bit awkward at first, the learning process is not that bad. It is much easier to learn when there are no bad habits to overcome.

I fish because the voices inside my head tell me to.
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I have to add the other side.When I started I switched to my left hand up when called for.It worked well.I used to shoot baskets well with my left when on the left side in bball,too.At one point some thought I was a lefty.However,I saw a very good guide cast "cachanded".I tried it.I found that I reached much higher levels of casting .Higher than when I cast off my right shoulder.To the point where at one point I tried cachanded with my left hand up in place of normal double speys river right,etc.Ed Ward finaly dialed in my right side casts.Anatomicly,cachanded limits the primary mistakes in a cast.In some conditions It also sets up the cast better for fishing,I.E.,a bigger easier reach or mend ,etc.Also,I reel with the left hand.No need to change the rod after the cast.For what its worth!Beau
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...switching hands...

...one of the biggest benefits I've found from switching hands is when you start to work w/ your dominate on bottom, it helps you to learn to pull w/ your lower hand & resist the urge to cast w/ the top hand, a common fault for me, & most people starting w/ a Spey rod. Switching hands helps you to learn to pull the bottom & not push the top, & you'll probably find casting w/ the dominate on the bottom is just as easy, if not easier, so just do it & don't think or worry about it...
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