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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 11-01-2015, 11:06 PM Thread Starter
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Scandi and Skagit; type of line or casting style?

Hi all, here goes my first beginner question. Up to now, I thought Scandi lines and Skagit lines were simpky different types of equipment that you cast using the same basic types of spey casts (eg. Single spey, double spey, snap T, etc...). Now after talking to someone quite knowledgeable about spey, I 've been left a bit confused and thinking thrre is actually a specific casring technique (or style) for each of these types of line???
Can anyone shed some light on this or point me to some info? Is there actually specific techniques when using each of these lines? Or do you use the same basic casts, but executed a bit differently according to the differences of line styles?

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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 11-01-2015, 11:59 PM
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Simon, I had the same questions at one time. There were not alot of so called casting styles at that time and Skagit hadn't been born yet. There was Scandinavian style as taught by Goran Anderson and also long line casting. Both casting styles worked with T&G casting with all of the casts you mentioned. I studied both and used both in my fishing. I even had a quick study in skagit. Using all of the casts you mentioned in your post.

My conclusion now is that if your technique is solid you will be able to adapt to different rods, different head lengths and not have to focus on a particular style requiring a specific line or rod. You shorten a casting stroke for short head lines and you lengthen it for longer lines. This is pretty much the bare bones of casting with two handed rods.

This being said it's a pretty cool journey if one really wants to study each style and become proficient with all of them. Also keep a very open mind and question everything. If your told that there is a particular line or rod that needs to be used to cast a certain way I would seriously steer away from that.
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Well put Brian. In our classes I address this question right at the start by telling them that we will not teach them scandi, skagit or long-belly casting, but will teach them to spey cast. Like Brian said, once you are solid with the basics you can easily adapt to the various head and belly lengths. Getting good instruction right from the start could save you years of frustration. If you can, start by taking a class or private lesson and write down all of the basic principles they lay out for you. If you start well you might be amazed how quickly you progress.

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I think of scandi and Skagit as line types. I would classify casting types as touch and go (including underhand) and sustained anchor.

You can use both types of casts for pretty much any line system though not sure I would recommend sustained anchor for long line or even mid line systems. Some would suggest that Double speys and circle/snap Ts are sustained anchor but I believe there are minor differences between true sustained anchor and perhaps s DS or Snap T done with a long line system
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These may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN6Uot7CPX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6JPcWpQyFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MktnIRpnaQ
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This is great stuff guys! Thanks so much for clearing this up.
Cheers!

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Very well done Peter

Especially the line profile overlays at the bottom of the screen.

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