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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-04-2005, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
 
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Question Buying 1st Spey rod (possiblely for evil uses)

I fish the Red River North in Manitoba. From the 1st time I saw this river I thought of how much the size reminded me of those big waters that folks spey cast on.

Now the 'evil part' the Fish in this river are Manitoba salmon (Channel Catfish) Golden Bonefish (common carp) as well as a myriad of other warm water beauties.

So the Fish in question (cats and carp) grow very large and fight very hard and, sometimes, are a fair piece out there.

So what am I looking for in a rod? A good friend here (who got in to spey rodding this past season) was recomending I look at rods that are good at throwing long belly lines. Also the possiblity of using a normal fly line with the spey rod and just shooting a chunk of line that way.

The $150 Reddington in the Cabelas Bargin Cave looks good but would it cut the mustard for what I am attempting?

Right now for a single hander I am using an 8wt with a variety of lines (basically floating, sinking) but feel a tad under powered and think a 9 or 10 would do the trick for our fish and winds.

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-04-2005, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
 
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Well howdy Peter. 1st off I loved the Grand River when I live in the area. You could fish that river catch a dozen species along it's length and never go anywhere else.

Some of the places I might fish the rod there will be room for back casts but when the water is high and the fishing is hot i will be lucky to wade in 3ft from shore.

I am also thinking of a multi tip set up (does this preclude long belly)

there are some seams that a 100+ ft cast would be 'handy'
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The Redington 13 for 8/9 or the 14 for 9/10 will both do well for what you want. Check link below for Dana Sturns review of the 15 for 10/11 from the same series of rods. Not much on looks but cast a mile and you wont get anything cheaper.


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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-11-2005, 03:38 PM Thread Starter
 
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Ok the reddington is on the way

I ordered the 14' 9/10 (gads will this winter ever end?)

I am thinking the Windcutter multi tip for line so any general descriptions as to what I am looking for in a reel?

Someone suggested an Okuma Integrity
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I owned an Okuma Integrity and found that the finish started to flake of very easy. The wooden handle also cracked. Daiwa do an almost identical reel called the Lochmor Disc, but the finish seems to withstand the elements better.

In a similar price range, the Orvis Battenkill and Scientific Anglers System Two reels would be a better choice IMHO. They are adequate reels with a deserved reputation.
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I agree also that the Daiwa version is better, but the 10/11 will not hold a 9/10/11 windcutter line with backing and unless I am mistaken (very possible) that reel isn't made larger than 10/11. You are going to need a reel that is rated for a 12wt and several hundred yards of backing.
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Not to take anything away from the Diawa version but I believe the 10/11 Integrity will hold a 9/10/11 WC and a sufficient amount of backing for steelhead fishing. While my memory is far from perfect I'm pretty sure I have sold several set up just that way. I will however check this out later today.

As to the finish chipping, that is true on the reels with the gloss finish. I have seen some that looked to be sand blasted. I know one guy that fishes a great deal on the Columbia tribs near Portland that uses one of these reels and it works flawlessly. It has also been to Alaska for salmon fishing. The finish is gone but that reel is smoooth. The newer versions have a finish that looks like some type of powder coating. My first impressions are that it will be a tougher finish.

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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I have heard the knocks on the Okumas but with the one I have none of this is true. For every bad drag bad finish story I have read there are more that haven't

I guess for the price it is a small gamble.
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If I were you , I would call Mike at Red Shed and talk to him for about a n hour...you would probably end up with a rod and reel and line to ry and be on your way...all on your set budget....2 cents...
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Another reel to consider is the Okuma Sierra S10/11. My experience with the reel is limited (recent acquisition), but it has more capacity than the Integity, and a little more than a Redington AS 13/14.
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BFR220d

I matched the BFR 200d to the rod you purchased and loaded it with the Windcutter 8/9/10 with the Wincutter upgrade and lots of room for more then enough backing. Used combination about 200 days over the last two and a half years and have encontered no problems with line, reel or rod landing steelies to the high teens and Chinook into the forties.




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The BFR 200d is a great reel and a nice match for that rod. It is to bad Cortland decided to stop selling that model (Magnum) while still selling the 140d model.

I loaded a 9/10/11 WC on a 10/11 Integrity and while there is not room for a large (read more then I'm ever likely to need) amount of backing I would not feel at all uncomfortable fishing for our "B" runs with a reel so equipped.

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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-17-2005, 12:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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OK I picked up an Integrity off ebay

Now I was thinking of the Windcutter line but do you have any other suggestions (and reasons to support it)

remember i an not fishing for steel and salmon but channel cats and carp.
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