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Scott ARC1196 tip info???????

Some of you may have seen my CND on the For Sale by owner page, the rod wasn't really capable (in my hands anyhow) of doing what I was looking for. I have since unloaded it and moved on to Scotts ARC 1196. Beautiful, tosses a WC5/6 like nobodies business. Every time I have it out I see more and more of the green running line getting "sucked" out with the cast. I have been astonished at the ease of casting with this rod.

Anyhow..... wondering what other owners of this stick use for tips with it. I have fished a 5ft poly leader, which works well. Last night I stuck a 26ft 250 grain striper head on a running line and spent some time on the lawn with it, but wasn't to impressed.

I am looking for something more along the lines of an integrated head , like Rio's DC series, Teenies, or SA's streamer express. Grains, Tip length, and Body length are what I am wondering.

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That is a great little rod, and it will cast all of the the WC 5/6 with no problem.

Send Jeff Putnam a private message and ask him what lines he recommends. The MS 6/7 with tips is probably a great line for this rod.
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hello jamey. looking at this, thinking a little..........

a WC 6/7/8 with tip 2 removed should come in @ approx 340 grns over 34' of head vs 360 over 48' on the 5/6

another "integrated head" line to consider, hardy mach 1 8/9, 324 grns over 39'. available in floating, intermediate, and interestingly........ wet 2 & wet 5, listed as F/S WF. sink tips? the designation would imply so. i can't ever find enough info on these lines to satisfy me. they are intriguing though..... i believe they have the now popular color change from head to running line.

couldn't you cut & loop a WC 5/6 for tips? something from rio's sngl hnd versatip selection should match the grains that would be required for a weight correct 15' tip.

good luck........ SG
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Another Option

is to build a Skagit head for the rod along the lines of Ed Ward's recommendation for 5/6 rods.

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Rio WC 5/6

I have the Scott ARC and have had added an additional 3 inches at the butt to create a 12' rod. I have the Rio WC 5/6 with tips(intermediate, type 3 and type 6) for it. I have not done much steelhead fishing with this rig, but it is a wonderful streamer outfit for (hopefully big) trout on larger rivers---you can really cover the water in places no single hander would/could venture.
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Hi Jamey,

That is a sweet rod.

If you want to shoot tips, and swing the seams, I'd sway towards Ted's advise and build an Ed Wardian Skagit style SH for that rod.

Another nice set up for this family of rod when using an off-the-shelf line would be the Airflow WF floater (a single hand line)

I'd advise an 8/9 wt for the rod mentioned.

These lines have very sweet spey tapers at 46 ft. of belly from the box, and when looped to the various 10' Steelhead/Salmon floating or sink rate Poly tips, become diverse interchangeable tip ~ 56' belly classic spey line systems for the lightweight two hander.

They cast extremely well, but more importantly, we have found them to be perfect high-stick or indy nymphing lines.....As the running line has enough diameter to allow the agressive double-hand mend and dump often required during the dry line high stick or indy drift.

The WCs and Hardy Mach-1s do cast like the dickens, but they are primarily swing lines with runners that do not favor the aerialized drift mending often used for the "Trouty" fly presentations.

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Who is Ed Wardian?

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Yea,

And a little after Neo Lithic.

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