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Threading line on a rod

Here's a very basic almost silly question. How do folks thread their lines on their rods.

I was putting line through my 13' rod the other day and I realized how awkward it was, and how easily I could snap the tip.


I did it by putting the whole rod together then attaching the reel, then pulling line through the guides. This does not feel safe since I'm holding the tip and the butt of the rod is on the ground. It feel like I could have snapped it in half. How do folks here do it?
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I rig up at my truck before I walk down to the river. I tape up my rod, attach the reel, lay it on the rod sock in the bed of my truck (tailgate down) so 3/4 of the rod is hanging off the tailgate, and thread the line through the guides. The leader goes through the tip top and comes back down and around the outside of the reel and back up the rod where the fly is hung on a guide foot and the line is then snugged up so it won't flop around. If I have some walking to do I will not tape the middle ferrule and will break the rod in half after it's strung up, and then carry it strung up but in two pieces. I put it together and tape the ferrule when I'm ready to fish.

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It also helps (at least for the almost clumsy among us) to thread your line doubled through the guides---that is, fold your line (not leader) about 3feet from the end, and then pull that fold through the guides first. That way if you let go, it doesn't all go squirting back down through the guides. Hard to describe adequately, but very easy to do.
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I have seen LOTS of rods break while being strung up or while trying to get loops through the guides.

NEVER EVER pull line our through the tip top with the rod bent.. if you need to string it up or need to get line out the tip top set the butt down, walk to the tip end and pull the line straight out the tip top. never point the rod at the sky and pull down....

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I wonder if I am sick to have evolved this technique.

At the risk of exposing pathologic attention to something simple, the following is offered. A video is here: http://youtu.be/uz9AfpnNIT8

Casting almost daily (twice a day recently, because it is warmer), for a good bit of 50+ years, I have rigged countless times. There is not much to think about while rigging-up other than rigging-up. The following has evolved.

Put or have the reel on the reel seat (I leave the reel on some rods between sessions.) Save the assembly of the butt section to the other sections for last.
Assemble the top sections - they are easier to handle without the butt section.
Join the assembled top sections to the butt section.

Slide the ferrules gently snug, assess the alignment, then twist to just right alignment when firmly snugging the ferrules.

Holding the rod with the left hand, just in front of the reel, identify the end of the tippet, between the appropriate pillars, and start pulling off the leader with your right hand. You are dropping the stripped line. NOW, when the nail knot of the fly line is reached, stop dropping what you strip. Keep the end of the fly line grasped between thumb and index finger while you strip off six strips of fly line, using long finger and side of the thumb. (Six for a 15' rod, 5 for a 13 footer, etc.) Keep holding just the end of the line between thumb and index finger, while dropping the stripped loops between each 3' pull.

Form a loop in the end of the fly line by bending it about six inches from the end and holding that loop with about an inch sticking out between your thumb and index finger of your right hand. You are still holding the rod with your left hand. You will see that you can thread the loop of line through the stripping guide with one hand. The loop goes through quite easily and you can capture the loop on the far side of the guide with the same thumb and index finger by involving the long finger in the grasp. Slide the pinched-together thumb and index finger up the surface of the rod to the next guide and find that, done right, the loop will go right through that guide. Cool.

Now. place your butt section in the back of the van, or onto the grass, or into your hat on any rocks. The rod should be rolled away from you -- the reel falling onto its left side plate. This puts the guides on your side of the rod. Using the same technique of sliding the pinched together thumb and index of the right hand up the surface of the rod, causing the little loop of line to slide through subsequent guides, you will find you can almost thread all the guides without a pause.

When you get the little loop through the tip top, put one finger of your left hand through the loop. This makes it far easier to grasp the leader leg of the loop with your right hand as you pull it all the way through. Now pull out what little bit of the other leg, the non-leader leg of the loop, out the tip top. You now have just enough line out the tip top to keep it sliding through your open palm as you gently move back to the butt section to go fishing.

Notes: You do want to pull the prescribed length of line out the tip top, in order to eliminate the big loop of line between the reel and stripping guide, as that loop, mismanaged, can cause gravity to undo all your hard work, and occasion foul language.

Note2: Yes, if you just pull about a foot of loop through the tip top you can false cast the rest of the loop out. Easy with a 9 footer. Pain with a big rod.

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It also helps (at least for the almost clumsy among us) to thread your line doubled through the guides---that is, fold your line (not leader) about 3feet from the end, and then pull that fold through the guides first. That way if you let go, it doesn't all go squirting back down through the guides. Hard to describe adequately, but very easy to do.
+1 to this method in addition to assembling the whole rod at the truck, attaching the reel, then using this method to get line through the guides.
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Assemble the top 3 pieces. Attach reel to butt section. Attach butt section to rest of the rod. Align. Find a tree branch, lay the setup horizontal making sure reel is flush to the branch so that it doesn't drop to the ground. String up holding the junction where tip and head loops meet.
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It's very interesting to have such clear instructions on such matters, as, except in dire emergencies, we in the UK have our ghillies undertake such tasks whilst we fishermen have a chat over morning coffee


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To supplement locsetter's instructions: I pull out slightly more than twice the rod's length of line and leader. I place the rod and reel, reel handle up, on whatever surface is convenient: tailgate, smooth ground, balanced on a log, etc. I usually thread the leader, doubled over at a knot. If I place a finger on the underside of each guide, I can almost thread without looking at the guide. I keep one eye on the line, lest it tangle as the line is pulled from the pile. When the line and leader are through, I can bend it back to the butt without bending the rod. I may tie a fly on then. Since I often wait until I get to the water, I quickly tie an overhand loop near the tippet and tighten it around the butt. The ov. loop can be pulled out of existence in a second.
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Loc, you prepared a far more understandable explanation. Thank you.


Roballen, I fail to see how pulling a loop versus a single thickness of flyline endangers breakage. I'm lost with your seeing lots of rods broken that way
[QUOTE=roballen;751474]I have seen LOTS of rods break while being strung up or while trying to get loops through the guides.
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