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Having spent the last year and a half bringing my knowledge and casting ability to a high level, I was delighted to pass my GAIC assessment in double hand casting with the Game Angling Instructors Association. The assessment took place on the River Moy, Foxford, County Mayo in Ireland. I have a lot of people to thank for helping me on my journey but in particular my mentors Robert Gillespie, Der Casey and Brian Mohally. My friend and casting buddy John O'Neill also passed on the same day and we are now both qualified Professional Game Angling Instructors.
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No disrespect but out of ignorance what does this actually mean and what if any perks

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Congratulations on your achievement! I like reading the teaching method articles written by other GA Instructors in the Flyfishing and Flytying magazine.
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Congratulations Damien !! Well done.

Understand the GAIC qual's can be pretty rough.

Hope you and yours are well and that everyone made it out of the Middle East quagmire safely.

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That's awesome. What a feather in your cap! Congratulations. I'm sure a lot of time was devoted to mastering the techniques and being able to execute them at will. It's extremely satisfying when a person makes those types of strides and casting becomes less of a perishable skill and more of a natural act



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APGAI Ireland Instructors offer:

top quality services on fly fishing instruction
guides who provides top class tuition
Instruction on all types of single and double handed casts
Any normally coordinated person can master fly casting in a few lessons with a competent teacher.

Single and Double Handed Casting Instructors : Fly Fishing and Casting Instruction Ireland : APGAI Ireland | Apgai Ireland

I believe or think this is accurate. There are separate achievements for Scottland and the U.K. all requiring passing a rigorous exam. If you read any of the flyfishinguk site, it's an ongoing discussion that's at least a dozen pages any time it comes up
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Thank you Cebe. Its an informative magazine for sure. I believe that to be a good teacher it is essential to constantly look at methods used by others in order improve, where possible, the methods which we use when giving casting lessons. It benefits the learner, but it is also good practice in that we must always strive to improve how we convey our instructions effectively.

Hi Mike and thank you, hope you and your family are keeping well. Yes all ok at this end. The GAIA exams are not easy, thats for sure, but then again anything that is worth achieving is never easy. Its a big commitment in time and energy and without the constant support and encouragement of my family I would probably have thrown in the towel. Haven't told them yet that I am taking the advanced level next year!

J.James, thank you. It is indeed a massive undertaking, particularly in relation to the tasks which are required for the assessment. All casts must be completed to specific standards off both shoulders with equal proficiency. Its not easy to learn how to cast with ease with both hands, your mind is telling the body to do one thing and the result is entirely different. It takes time and lots of practice but it is worth it even if for personal use, I can now fish comfortably in almost any environment in conditions that would have most people head for home. In relation to the information you have provided above, I am a member of a different organisation, Game Angling Instructors Association, which is based in the UK but with members in Ireland, Scotland, Italy and the USA. We have a different set of qualifying standards to that of APGAI Ireland, specifically the need to perform all tasks off both shoulders under assessment.

Hi Back Eddy. No disrespect is taken. I will answer your question but would first ask what it is that you would want to find when contacting a casting instructor? I notice that in one of your previous posts back in 2013 you sought advice on a DH casting instructor in Denver, did you get good instruction from a qualified individual? In deciding to commit to a course of study and practice to become a DH casting instructor, I initially viewed it as a way to improve my own ability and understanding of casting and the theory behind it. I wanted to enhance the enjoyment of the sport that I love and by becoming proficient I have achieved a level of ability that I would probably not have attained had I not taken this journey. I have become friends with some of the most talented, knowledgeable and nicest people in our sport and that alone has been worth the effort. The attainment of the GAIC qualification of Professional Game Angling Instructor has provided me with the technical ability and theoretical knowledge necessary to allow me to give instruction in the art of DH casting. I have been assessed by my peers under a rigorous process and have been deemed to have the necessary teaching skills, casting proficiency and knowledge to enable me to instruct others to a high standard. To ensure that I can provide the best possible instruction and service I also sought and received Certification as a Level 2 Coach, Certified First Aider, CPR and Defib, Certified Coach for People with Disabilities, Certified Child Welfare Training, Certified Safe Wading and River Rescue, have Police Vetting approval and have full insurance cover. All of this benefits me and voluntary organisations with which I work where we offer instruction to children and vulnerable adults. My own clients can be confident that they are receiving instruction from a qualified individual who can provide a safe and structured learning path to achieve their goal of becoming proficient with a DH rod. As for perks, the biggest perk for me is seeing students progress and becoming confident in their own ability.

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really well done delighted for you m8
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Hi Aaron, thank you. I hope you are doing ok, are you getting to wet a line?
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Congratulations !! Fantastic achievement !!
If you would like to send me your contact info and I will add your name to the Certified Casting Instructors list


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Many thanks for your thorough response, now it is very clear and congratulations on the accomplishment. Ignorance is bliss.

And no I could not even find one in the Denver Area. Maybe a move for you is in order a huge population base and every time Simon or Dec comes through the classes are always full

Enjoy your journey
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Congratulations !! Fantastic achievement !!
If you would like to send me your contact info and I will add your name to the Certified Casting Instructors list


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Hi Mike! Thank you! I will send my details via PM. Its an honour to go on a list with some very accomplished instructors.
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Congratulations Klink

You say it took you a year and a half to achieve this.
What was your double hand casting skill level when you started training/practice for the assessment?
Approximately how many hours per week did you train/practice to pass the assessment?
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Congratulations Klink

You say it took you a year and a half to achieve this.
What was your double hand casting skill level when you started training/practice for the assessment?
Approximately how many hours per week did you train/practice to pass the assessment?
Thank you. To answer your question I would say that before I decided to take the assessment my casting was average. I was happy enough to get a fly out and for it to fish well through a run. However my technique and my economy of effort was not where I wanted it to be. My casting was not very efficient. I live ten minutes from the River Blackwater so I was on the river three or four days for about four hours each session and one day for about eight to ten hours. This was casting time only. I did not fish when I was practising, I would put up a wool tag rather than a fly so as to avoid distraction. I focused on my left hand a lot at the start in order to build muscle memory to where my left hand up is as good as my right hand. It is essential to be able to do this in my opinion in order to be able to teach effectively off both shoulders. However casting is not the only requirement for the assessment. A complete understanding of casting mechanics and theory is also necessary in order to be able to convey the why, how and when of each cast. An ability to teach is every bit as important as the ability to cast when offering instruction. If you can not convey your message effectively then the learner will either be confused or feel that they have wasted their hard earned money and time. I also undertook a course which certified me as a Level 2 coach and this I feel greatly enhanced my ability to teach. I would consider this time every bit as important as time spent on the river and there fore must include that time in answering your question. I would conservatively guess that hours spent in total on casting, theory and teaching at around 2000. A lot of time but time which I enjoyed. Remember that failure to prepare is preparing to fail and in that regard you can never have enough practice.
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Having spent the last year and a half bringing my knowledge and casting ability to a high level, I was delighted to pass my GAIC assessment in double hand casting with the Game Angling Instructors Association. The assessment took place on the River Moy, Foxford, County Mayo in Ireland. I have a lot of people to thank for helping me on my journey but in particular my mentors Robert Gillespie, Der Casey and Brian Mohally. My friend and casting buddy John O'Neill also passed on the same day and we are now both qualified Professional Game Angling Instructors.
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Congratulations to you Both, I have a Huge interest in Fly Fishing, but the last few years, work etc changed that, but heading home to Eire soon, and I had asked a Friend ( who also is an Instructor for same ) about he went about His journey to become Qualified as Instructor, he said, around 2-3 years of Practice, study etc, but also mentioned that You would have to be Known...

I hope to have the time, but I'm just Me, so delighted to hear of Yer Achievement. Maybe throw a line with ye soon on the Blackwater
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Congratulations, Damien!
Well done.

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