Originally Posted by kush
I am having a hard time picturing a "style" that if being applied properly would not cast 80+ feet. Underhand, top hand, both hands, Skagit, long-belly... they all will work.
I am not an instructor, and don't aspire to be. Nor do I aspire to be certified cuz it would be cool even though I have no burning desire to teach. I do however have 15 yrs experience in the training field and a MS in it.
I'm having trouble with the word style. For some folks I realize it is only possible to reach them with a "big picture" holistic approach, but I prefer a "critical incidents" training approach where things are broken down into smaller components.
With little effort I can think of three seperate areas, which the pros could probably break down into a number of smaller areas. The lift, the D/V loop sweep, and forward stroke. I would think seperating the three would make a lot of sense. There are different styles of these maneuvers and they can be considered independent and taught/tweeked as seperate components.
Simon's "flat is good" vs Dec Hogan (only using these as examples due to videos available to the public from each) who swings through at almost a 45 degree rod angle on the sweep are good examples. Both work, both can be used with all line styles, but only one may be comfortable and consistent for an individual.
Those who have seen speybum cast might consider him "jerky" on his lift compared to Steve Choate. Speybum is not jerky if you watch carefully. He is precise, and sharp in his movements and controls the energy with a sharp snappy transition from the lift to the sweep. Where's the slack? He is smooth in a different way and I wish I could control a lift the way he does because it is so powerful, but it doesn't work for me.
Forward strokes... Let's not get started with forward strokes other than to say this is probably the area where if I was teaching I would let the technique picks the caster not the other way around. Having someone try the various major schools and watching which one is most effective and physically comfortable rather than which one they like, or the one their hero does.
In conclusion (how pedantic is that
) rather than saying something like "I use a traditional style" or "I use a skagit style" I think it may be more appropriate to say I use a Steve Choate lift, a Dec sweep, and a Simon forward stroke. Attaching the names to it does sound a tad silly, but without a vocabulary to describe them better, it is the only way I have to communicate them. Good thing I'm not a teacher
Here's to embarassing yourself in front of folks who know more than you do