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I am fortunate to be slotted to present at the SpeyNation Clave this year. Thank you organizers.

Although I am slotted to present Scandinavian casting, I would like to poll those going what they would like to see this year's clave. There are some starter questions, and I would appreciate your constructive feedback.

1. What (and why) would you like to see again from previous years?
2. What (and why) would you like to see new from previous years?
3. What presenter behavior would keep you interested during the demo?
4. What presenter behavior would lose you during the demo?
5. How much time out of the 60 min would you like Q&A?
6. Other comments.

I am sure many of you have been to claves, thus your input is welcomed. Please keep in mind, my intent is to ensure a high impact presentation, and not to wake up the disgruntled habits in responses.

Thank you in advance and PM me as an alternative to posting here.

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I had one PM which served up this to answer
3. What presenter behavior would keep you interested during the demo?
Answering Directly, Organized, Concise, Intelligibly enough (sound and communicative wise), Relatably, and a mix of insight and detection

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I've seen, from all the years, and all the presenters at the Sandy Clave was by Henrik Mortensen. Not that everyone else was not also excellent. They are all very knowledgeable, and very good in their own right. So what made Henrik's presentation stand out for me?

Henrik pointed out the habits of Atlantic Salmon vs, Steelhead, & Pacific Salmon, the differences in the riverscapes in different parts of the world, the casting styles used, & how & why they developed into what they are today.

Many of us, especially when starting out, are easily enamored by a particular style because it looks cool. Only to discover, after spending a small fortune, that the style we embraced is not exactly the best choice for our circumstance.

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Ah, so let the situation determine the tools and form, and not vice versa. Thanks for the input JD.

I like the idea of backing up from the fish to the human.

This often goes against the tide of Step into the Fly shop, get swooned by the latest bells and whistles and the largest personality there, and then add water.

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Hi, as the Clave season is about to start, I want bump this thread in the event some are looking fwd to SpeyNation.

One of the tools I was going to introduce is Long Belly Scandi for Trout. I put together a 13'6" Trout spey together with a XLT 5 weight. This setup is used mainly to swing wet flies with a fluorocarbon leader for trout/ a popper for smallmouth.

The nice thing about this set up is it is slow enough to communicate the rod/ line physics under live presentation. Also, it is a deadly combination for trout/ smallmouth, fish we can put our skills to at this time of the year.

Also, I figured it is not a common combination (Scandi stroke+Long Line+ Trout/ Smallmouth), pointing to the possibility of breaking past common thinking when fundamentals are in play (than recipes).

Open for any SpeyNation ideas here.

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+1 to what Jim (and others) said above.

For me the one 'bug-a-boo' is an inadequate PA sound system so you can hear what the presenter is saying while on the river.

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We're working on that Fred. It's been a situation where we get one step closer every year. One year we had feedback from a water guage station and we tried to run it off a wireless mic, a gutiar amp and a car battery, the next someone forgot the patchcord, the next we had a generator and int he beginning it was ok but then it poured and the amplifier got wet. This year I have the generator and a new wireless mic asd one of our presenters dropped the old one in the water.

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One of the tools I was going to introduce is Long Belly Scandi for Trout. I put together a 13'6" Trout spey together with a XLT 5 weight. This setup is used mainly to swing wet flies with a fluorocarbon leader for trout/ a popper for smallmouth.

The nice thing about this set up is it is slow enough to communicate the rod/ line physics under live presentation. Also, it is a deadly combination for trout/ smallmouth, fish we can put our skills to at this time of the year.

Also, I figured it is not a common combination (Scandi stroke+Long Line+ Trout/ Smallmouth), pointing to the possibility of breaking past common thinking when fundamentals are in play (than recipes).
Here is a video just posted on my website that demonstrates this combination. Just select highest HD setting to view the line better.

http://youtu.be/aFxb50GbO4U

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Loved this posting.

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We're working on that Fred. It's been a situation where we get one step closer every year. One year we had feedback from a water guage station and we tried to run it off a wireless mic, a gutiar amp and a car battery, the next someone forgot the patchcord, the next we had a generator and int he beginning it was ok but then it poured and the amplifier got wet. This year I have the generator and a new wireless mic asd one of our presenters dropped the old one in the water.
I would have paid money to be there and watch that. "No good deed goes unpunished." sort of thing. Best time on the river were watching things 'unwind' with casters doing their best.

Even 'Old Dog(s)' were roiling eyes. Snort/snuffle/flake out and a nap. Me to with 230 # of fuzz butts snuggled on each side. Husker's is gone but his ash box is on my desk; Sandy is flaked out on 'our bed' as I type. Into the BR and one eye opens/shuts .... gentle neck/face fluff chuck and a cuddle.

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Hi Sushiyummy,
Just had a quick look at the video you posted and thought I would add a little feedback, I see you have 60 minutes to do a presentation trust me that's a long time for a presentation.
I personally would be setting out my demonstration plan with a little break in the middle for a question and answer session, and aside from the great suggestions I would try and make FUN, be relaxed with the demo and your casting......every person that comes to watch has to leave your demo feeling like they want to get in the water and get casting, the easiest way to make that happen is to be relaxed and make the demo look easy and fun..... Interact with everybody there... be approachable to everyone watching.
I would take enough rods and line that I can change my set up depending on where my demo is, your demo might be on a nice section of river beautiful sunshine and lots of room, or it might be on a windy day on a stream, preparation is everything especially if you have 60 minutes, looking at the video I must admit it would not be my set up for a demo.

One other thing I would add is at the start of the demo, talk to everybody a little about being safe while fishing, we have to do this here in Scotland, on almost all of the Spey if you don't wear a safety inflatable vest/ jacket................ you can go home.

Anyway have fun, make it fun and relax .... the rest will flow, I have set out many plans for a demo.... some of the best I ever did went totally off track... but everybody had such a laugh.

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Thanks Gordon. I also plan to bring the DTX 15' and 16' as part of the cadre of rods to try out.

Yes, the point is to empower the crowd than to empower the presenter.

I don't hear much safety being talked at the claves I have been to. Presumably safety is given without further reinforcement, for the best of intention, or we simply don't mind a less crowded river by letting Darwinism to take over.

Yes the Q&A in the middle would be a good breather or else it would be a monologue in a talk-down fashion.

Fae, are you going to be there? I want to meet the man behind these postings. Almost like the Sage who laughs at the world trying to make diamonds having a lump of coal up their butts.

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Hi sushiyummy,
Not Going to be able to make any claves this year, but next year we are going to hit a few shows and organise a few classes in BC, the DTX Brand is flying thanks to Scott's hard work, we now have outlets across Norway Russia and Japan....... USA and Canada next, so I will be attending as many Spey claves and shows as possible next year.
Cracking new six piece travel Spey rod just out in the UK ...... and sold out in two weeks.
http://blog.fishingmegastore.com/201...as-travel.html

Anyway have fun and hopefully I will see you at a clave or two next year, big film crew arrived here yesterday to film on the river Ness and to film Scott Casting, should be good fun.
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Shaq- maybe this will help-

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