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post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old 01-06-2009, 10:02 AM Thread Starter
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Spey Nation II June 20, 2009



Hello Spey Nation 2008 Goers!

I hope your summer and fall seasons were a success and that the runs are strong in all your river systems. Thank you once again for traveling to Spey Nation last June. As you probably know, Spey Nation has been a topic of excitement on our river this year. Everyone seems to be talking about it and we have seen more Spey and Switch Rods on the river this year than in the last 5 seasons combined.

We'd like to invite you to Spey Nation II, June 20, 2009. Once again, we will gather on the shores of the Salmon River in Pineville, NY to celebrate the culture of 2 handed rods and the fish that we chase. Last year we had attendees and presenters represent Oregon, Tennessee, Ohio, New Jersey, New England and Washington State. Thanks to you, we rose over $1300 to donate to Steelhead Conservation efforts in our region. This year promises to be bigger and better!

We will once again be hosting a BBQ, raffles and some surprises. Its a bit early to be talking about who might be presenting and which companies will be represented but I can tell you that we are working hard at gathering quite a list.

To see highlights from Spey Nation 2008 and keep updated about 2009 please go to www.speynation.com.

We hope to see everyone in June

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post #2 of 61 (permalink) Old 01-06-2009, 02:27 PM
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It's a shame that you guys pick the third weekend in June each year. I know that myself and a bunch of other guys who fish spey rods a lot would love to come. Unfortunately that is opening day in NY for many of the warmwater species and many of us go out to fish bass or muskie on the fly for opening day.

But I realize you can't accomadate everyones schedule.


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Gillie,

Unfortunately we are planning our event around the water operators at the dam. A release of 400cfs is scheduled for that saturday. The later releases are 750 and we would be up against the summer runs in the west. It seems it is a perfect time for our west coast guests to come out for a visit. The rest of the summer will be dependant on rain and usually averages around 100cfs which is dreadfully low for both fishing and casting. We'd love to have you guys attend but we sure do understand the priorities, we have them as well, if you notice Spey Nation is after the drakes on the Delaware..haha.

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definitely looking forward to this years enclave! great time last year; especially getting to meet some of the people in the neighborhood, as well as the amazingly cool gurus from PNW and CA. Is it just me, or is anyone thinking new tribal tatoo for 2009, or at least a t-shirt with that sweet glyph. Hoping ive learned a few things in this years practice in the willow pool, watching in awe, fishing behind 'eastern spey'. i gotta try and learn that sick spiral single hes got firing fine and far off. Im always a student and ill make it to this class for sure.

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This event was one of the most fun and appreciated events that I have ever attended.

The countryside and river is beautiful, the folks that led our way (Thanks Zack) are super friendly, and the enthusiasm for two handed rods is extreme.

This is a quality gathering and for sure will be attending again ... Only this time will arrive a few days in advance so I can stay awake for the late night BS sessions at the camp site ... }:^) ... !!!

Good on you guys ...

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Thanks Bob, That really means alot to us.

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Gillie, there is pretty good smallmouth fishing in the Salmon that time of year, plus, good sized resident rainbows, browns and some surprise steelhead (if the water isn't too low).
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Just wrote it on the calender. I missed it last year, but it looked like a great time.
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Speyhermit,
I know there is some good smallmouth up there. One of the biggest smallmouth I've caught came out of the Salmon while chasing Skamania 7 or 8 years ago. I thought I had a big steelhead until this big green thing blew up out of the water 50 yards downstream. My buddy still tells the story that he has never seen someone so disappointed to catch a huge smallie. It was well over 4 lb fish.

Third Saturday in June = Muskie fishing on the fly for me.
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Thumbs up Great Gathering

I want to urge all those northeast flycasters to come out to a great clave and have some fun with their fellow enthusiasts. I was very pleased with the organizers and the new friends I met last year at the Salmon River in New York. It is a long way from my home waters on the Salmon River in Idaho, but the people really made me feel like it was home, and there were many great teaching presentations and opportunities to play with all the latest gear.

I am planning my return trip and I know the Spey Underground will be rising to the occasion.

Hope to see you there,

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Hello Spey Nation 2009!

This is your official 145 day update! In just under 5 months, we will gather on the shores of the Salmon River in Pineville, NY to celebrate the culture of 2 handed rods and the fish that we chase. If you traveled to the Fly Fishing Show this past weekend in Somerset, NJ you probably know, Spey Nation was a topic of excitement. Everyone seemed to be talking about it.

Buelah, Echo, Thomas & Thomas, Scott, Guidelines, CND, Burkheimer, Airflo, Wild Water Fly Rods, Meiser Fly Rods, Hardy, Temple Forks Outfitters, Sage, Rio, JP Ross Fly Rods, G. Loomis, and St. Croix will all be on hand giving you unprecedented On-The-Water access to their lines of 2-handed rods, lines and reels. More companies are still checking their schedules to try and make the trip.

Lee Davison (CND), Bruce Berry (Beulah), Will Turek (Mid-West Spey School), Whitney Gould (Burkheimer), Andrew Moy (Tight Lines Fly shop/East Coast Spey), and Peter Charles (Guidelines) are already lined up to do formal presentations and we have some other very special guests we are trying to land…so to speak.

We will once again be hosting a complementary BBQ sponsored by The Oak Orchard Fly shop, and www.speypages.com has also agreed to sponsor our efforts.

We are still compiling some impressive raffle prizes and are very happy to announce a partnership with The Fish Creek Atlantic Salmon Club. The FCASC’s goal is to re-establish a viable, natural reproducing run of Landlocked Salmon in Fish Creek. Fish Creek empties into Oneida Lake north of Syracuse, NY. To learn more about their organization please visit http://www.fishcreeksalmon.org/.

To see highlights from Spey Nation 2008 and keep updated about 2009 please go to www.speynation.com and forward this to anybody who may be interested.

We hope to see everyone in June,

Geoff, Zach and the Nation

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Is Turek on this board yet? I've read some of his articles and found them informative. Moy is an awesome guy. Can't wait to see him in action.
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memo to the spey nation

Hardcore steelheaders just had a nice weekend on the salmon river. I myself did really well on saturday, sunday not so. I was very happy and quite surprised how many people i saw with double handers fishing. 70/30 indie to true swingers, but still a big change from the usual assalt of lead/bottom bouncing.

Unfortunately, what i didnt see is ANY spey fishing etiquette. I was distinctly low holed 4 separate times. twice by people with intention to swing flies. im talking less than 40 feet below me. I dont have enough karma banked to get snippy, so i left the run abruptly to find some water with the bucket a little less obvious.

For the agenda of spey nation 2009 i encourage a fishing ethics lecture centered on tradition of cast swing step and its permutations. I know the SR has history of static combat salmon fishing. Position and place have always been the way things go up there; But, i think, the revolution of steelhead fishing with a double handed rod that has really taken off on this river over last couple years needs to be more comprehensive than just selling someone a rod in a store. like the sale of other weapons, they should come with a list of instruction/rules/warnings about how to be a more sensitive sportsman altogether.
just a reflection of what i noticed on an otherwise fantastic gl fishery.

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Well leaving the run without saying anything does not make the situation any better. It sucks to do it but nobody is going to learn a thing if anglers do not say something and rely on a lecture at some event these folks may or may not attend. No need to get confrontational but simply stating I am swinging flies are you are about to get a hook in your waders gets the point across...9 times out of 10 they will move down.

I do think a handout could be good at the event and a little verbal reminder but I think you will be preaching to the choir...

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Sean your right. if nothing said nothing communicated. passively/?aggressively by picking up and taking off in a minnie hissy fit, i hopefully sent some message. After reading the low hole thread, while in BC, i did try to mention some thoughts to couple of gear drifters and for whatever reason they didn not appreciate my words or tact (putting one fly accross there bow/shins). either way with the silence i got into my head and ruminated about it until my day was less than peaceful. So, this time i chose a different response. I have good tolerance of the center pinners and gear floaters. i was just not so with the swinging others as i thought they should know this stuff. maybe your right and they just dont know. i just thought there should be some intro to the double swing practice if someone buys a new double hander. appparently fat nancy/melindas/and whittakers have all moved a number of rods this year so i anticipate spey nation 2009 to hopefully be well attended

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