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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 04-27-2016, 12:06 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone heading to the Sandy Clave?

Hope to make it this year - first time since the first two. Some of the TU Wild Steelhead Initiative Group will be there and John McMillan I think is giving a talk on Friday evening. I am the CA TU representative for WSI and will help at the booth assuming I can get there. You owe it to yourself to listen to John - absolutely fascinating guy who has a passion for protecting wild steelhead!!

Just got through major surgery so am still in recovery so likely no fishing.
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I hope John is speaking Friday night, I know he is speaking Thursday in Portland but I don't arrive until Friday AM.

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Me too. Should be deeply entertaining.

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I'll be there showing off a new Clackacraft, Jefferson Rod Co and PNW IPA's
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John M's talk this evening was just outstanding!!! He has a great way of explaining the science to the lay person, even if not a fisherman that is highly entertaining - spoken to him on a number of occasions and never get tired of listening to him about steelhead!!!


Highlights from his talk:
John's talk was essentially about how complicated the life cycles of steelhead are when compared to other salmonid species - they have around 32 life cycles compared to somewhere around 8 to only 2 for various salmon species. All the management strategies were developed back in the mid 1900s for salmon and just carried over to steelhead which does not work well. Talked about the original range of SH all the way down into baha.

Hatcheries reduce that life cycle dramatically. Also talked about the importance of all size classes of fish and how there can be sexually mature trout down to 3 inches in size and about sneaker fish - small 12" and less fish that can sneak in and fertilize a female's eggs rather than a bigger male that is also trying - very funny comparison to the Schwarzenagger big males compared to the little Danny DeVito sneaker fish - highly entertaining an awesome underwater photos and videos - he has snorkeled over 2000 miles of rivers!!!

Talked about the success of the Elway Dam removal and finally the importance of the Wild Steelhead Initiative and how effective it can be in changing policies. There have been attempts to change regulations up on the Olympic Peninsula watersheds for over 20 years - the only place in WA that wild fish could be killed!! There was never a concerted large scale effort. WSI along with other groups really spent the time and energy in meetings not only with regulators but all groups including guides and wer able to turn things around allowing three new regulations - no killing of wild SH, ban on bait and barbed hooks and a test section on the Hoh for no fishing from boats - had close to 600 folks write in and speak and 75 to 90% in favor of these changes- so our voice really does matter and can make changes if we work together
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I am not sure why, but the Sandy Clave was a bit of a disappointment this past weekend. Maybe it was the smoking hot temps and strong winds on Friday, or the rainy cold conditions on Saturday and Sunday, maybe the change in date - or maybe all the above - but the attendance was clearly down. Regardless, I had a great time meeting up with old friends (and new) as well as showing off the GTs to people. I am already crossing my fingers for next year!

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So what were those contraptions the presenters had on their hips to hold stripped line?

Just another gadget...........or worth it?

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I think they were stripper clip/coil tenders out of Australia or New Zealand. I had them book marked from a few years ago, but the web link is not found or dead. Kiene's use to carry them. Not certain who had them available at the Clave.
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I cast a bit with a guy from Australia who had them at the clave.
Can't remember his name but he had a cool bamboo rod.

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So what were those contraptions the presenters had on their hips to hold stripped line?

Just another gadget...........or worth it?

Peter Hayes Stripper Clip out of Tasmania Australia. I believe Peter was at the Clave.

I've used one of the 1st gens for quite a few years and liked it well enough to order one of the new ones, which has tighter clips for smaller diameter shooting line. Especially like it fishing from a boat with shorter heads, works better for me than a basket or bucket.

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Unit Price : $115.00
Shipping per Order : $30.00
Total Price : $145.00


Yeah, not that cool.....
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Unit Price : $115.00
Shipping per Order : $30.00
Total Price : $145.00


Yeah, not that cool.....
Those prices are in OZ $$, I believe they were $85 US at the Clave.
Still not cheap,but to me worth it.

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Those prices are in OZ $$, I believe they were $85 US at the Clave.
Still not cheap,but to me worth it.

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Good catch sixheads! That is a bit more reasonable. I might pick one up.

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Hi Guys,

Peter from Tasmania here. I had a fantastic time camped at Oxbow Park and messing about with you all. I met some very wonderful people at the event and learned a heap also.

Until recently the Stripper Clips have been sold to loads of countries around the world mostly for single hand casting line management. The Sandy Clave was first time that North American Spey Casters have been exposed to the idea of this awesome, and simple, line management solution.

We have recently sold a heap into Iceland to mostly Spey anglers. They seem to love them ( hence the continued orders) and many are buying two - one for each side. On that Subject Travis Johnson did an awesome job of demonstrating the clip at the weekend and Travis likes one each side so that he can always lay the line on the downstream side of his body.

The cost of the product is about $80 - $85 USD. Depending on the days exchange rate. THey are sold on my website Peter Hayes Fly Fishing - Home in Australian dollars and sadly ( for me travelling in your country at the moment) our Aussie dollar only buys about 73 cents of yours.

The clips are manufactured in Minneappolis and are very cleverly designed and guaranteed for life. I suspect that one day the majority of spey casters will own a stripper clip. It is a small investment that fixes line management problems so beautifully.

See the video of me using it with a single hand rod here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8FaWsXmIaM
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