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|Originator: Eugene||Date: 10/12/2001 5:25 AM|
I'm starting to tie a few winter flies and I was wondering if anyone had a good shrimp pattern that they wouldn't mind sharing. I'm looking for one that sinks well without lead and that doesn't roll over under tension.
|Originator: Fred Evans||Date: 10/12/2001 5:34 AM|
The 'fly of flys' for this (my humble opinion) is still the General Practic. (Which I'm not good enough to tie a reasonable one). The other I tie, and use with pretty good results, is about as simple as it gets (with a sink tip). The underbody is flat silver tape, the body is red Amniesia (yuckie spelling) fly line backing and bead chain eyes. Simple, digs deep and does the job. More of a 'crill' pattern than shrimp but, depending upon what was last on the ocean menu, a good, cheep, easy to tie, fly.
|Originator: Sinktip||Date: 10/12/2001 5:13 PM|
This was my attempt at personalizing the GP. I tie it in sizes from 6 to 2/0 for
both winter and summer fish. Once you get the hang of it, it is an easy tie and has proven my number one pattern for the last couple years.
Hook: TMC200R in smaller sizes Alec Jackson Spey in smaller sizes or Tiemco 7999 in larger
Thread: Black 3/0 Danville
Tail: Bunch of black marabou
Feelers: 4 strands of moose main (tied slightly longer than tail)
Eyes: Mono or large bead chain
Body: Large black cactus chenille or estaz
Hackle: Black spey hackle
Shellback: Ringneck pheasant neck feathers dyed purple (a short one over point
of hook and one or two longer feathers at the head)
|Originator: Eugene||Date: 10/15/2001 3:47 PM|
Thanks to both of you. You've inspired me to tinker around with the traditional patterns and come up with something on my own. A question for you, Sinktip: don't you find that the bead chain eyes turn the fly upside down? If so, do you consider that a problem? Thanks again,
|Originator: Fred Evans||Date: 10/15/2001 7:58 PM|
As I usually tie these up on very light wire hooks (8's and 10's) you'd think it would make a difference but the fish usually hook themselves in the tounge or tip of the lip. As an aside, I tie these things 'backwards' like the Gen. Prac., or conventionally with the chain beads at the eye of the hook. So far, at least as best I can tell, it doesn't seem to make much difference to Mr. Fish.
|Originator: Sinktip||Date: 10/19/2001 5:50 PM|
Sorry but I neglected to check this thread for a few days. In answer to your question about the bead-chain eyes, I tie them on the bottom of the shank. This makes sure the fly rides point down and makes a more authentic looking shrimp in my opinion.
By the way, I also have a version with rubber leg feelers in place of the moose main. Has great action in the water but is not ascetically pleasing as the original.
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