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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 12-05-2001, 05:12 AM Thread Starter
 
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Going to throw my self against the 'tube fly' wall. Darn these things look interesting (Willie, you've to send one of your 'signiture pattern' so I can hange same in place of Honor; 2 if you want me to fish one. PS: does Daughter have a favorite?).
 
Other conversations on the how to build, etc., suggest the one difference of opinion is the hook of choice. Single-straight eye, double or a treble.
 
What's the Board' opinion?
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Fred, I think you'll like the TMC-105 in size 4.
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I've spent the past year experimenting with various single hooks for tubes and have settled on the Partridge Single Nordic Tube Fly Hook (the old Boile Carp Hook) available through Hunters http://www.huntersangling.com in sizes 4 & 6. The Tiemco 105s are also good but I don't find that they hold a fish as reliably as the Nordics.
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Dropped the big dime with Mark's folks Monday for the tube fly stuff. Fellow asked me if I wanted to "know the total?" Closed my eyes and said "no" on the phone. Looked at the patterns and that's what got me going .... in the wrong financial direction? Just kidding. Still no mail, so none of your really good 'goodies' yet. As to the samples!!!YOU BETJA!
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Dana, forgot to add to the above. "Carp" hook??????????
 
Gad, takes me back to my days at the Univer. of Washington and fishing behind the boat house for spawing carp. No class using 'dough balls' for bait, but Sweet J were they something on the end of a light fishing rod. Actually had the darn things dragging me around in a rental canoe for the better part of an hour just so I could get them close enough to pop the hook out and release.
 
Yes, a lot of us were into 'C&R' even in the very, very early '60's.
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Fred,
I'll be tying up several this week, you're welcome to a few, I went to the site showing the tying instructions and noticed that the "winged" version uses a 7999 or equivalent, perhaps for balance?
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Fred, the Partridge hooks that Dana speaks of are axcellent but hard to come by up here. I have also used the above mentioned Tiemco, especially on smaller tubes. Too bad they don't make a 2. I have been using, among other brands, Eagle Claw circle hooks in 1 and 1/0 with fairly good results for the past two seasons on larger tubes. The beauty of these, especially with winter fishing lies in the fact that you rarely pick up sludge off the bottom nor get snagged. Since the hook point is always protected, hook sharpness is less of an issue. I haven't had a single bleeder with this system though perhaps my hooking ratio has possibly suffered very slightly. No matter as long as these hooks are better for the fish.
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The choice of hook for tube flies depends on whether or not triples are
legal in your area.The original tube flies tied in Scotland used triples
since the tube fly rotates slowly during both dead drift and retrieve.
If triples are not legal but barbless is not required then the partridge
tube hooks are excellent.
However when barbless is a requirement then the circle type hooks or the
short shank offset beak point hooks with hold the fish better and reduce
long releases.
The group I fish with on the Bella Coola have been fishing tubes for five
years and there is unanimous agreement on the need for short shanks.
Bud Smithers aka Coot
Kelowna BC

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post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old 12-06-2001, 04:21 AM Thread Starter
 
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I agree that the Partridge Carp hook is outstanding. There is a new player here that no one has mentioned. Loop makes an incredible double tube hook with which I have had exceptional success. Many of my fishing buddies have tried them at my urging and so far they've all agreed with me. Short shank, straight eye, micro barb, and unbelievably sharp. Any Loop dealer can get them for you as they have been stocked here in the US for almost two years now. Sizes 2-8 with smaller sizes due after the first of the year. o
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JR, the loop hooks sound really interesting. Love to try 'stuff' I've of which I've got zero knowledge (had to work that sentence a couple of times to avoid a 'dangling particp.)
 
Do you have a 'point-click' web site where these area available? Here in Medford 'options' are more than limited ... (as a teenie-bopper would say) "like no way." I've sound (hooks of choice) the lighter the wire, the finer the point, the higher the hook ratio, etc., and etc.
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Fred,
The website I mentioned in my earlier message is:Global Fly Fisher, the web address is on another recent thread.
I scrolled down through the hook selection at huntersangling.com and found the Loop double hooks there.
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Fred.
Look at www.sportfish.co.uk/scrips/ver1.dll/shop?jump=c10523 That should take you straight to a loop double.
 
Email me your snail mail address so "daughter" and I can post you some tube flies for Christmas. Melly will tie her Rangers Special based on Glasgow Rangers football team (Soccer).
 
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