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|Originator: Peter-s-c||Date: 12/24/2001 1:15 AM|
Had this rod out for the first time today and figuring out the best line is proving to be a problem. I spoke to people at Lamiglas and Angler's Workshop who suggested the rod isn't a powerhouse, rather it's well suited for smaller waters and can work adequately with standard WF lines provided you don't try to work them with running line beyond the tiptop.
So far I've tried it with a DT-8-F - that was a disaster, (way overlined) an SA WF-7-F/S, an SA WF-7-F Nymph taper and a Teeny 200. Given the waters I fish, any floater has to able to handle sinking leaders as a floater by itself just isn't going to get the fly down to where the fish are. None of the floaters did a great job with sinking leaders. Out of the lot, I managed best with the Teeny. The rod is rated as a 6/7 and it appears to me that this is a genuine rating and anything over a 7 wt. is going to be unmanageable. I picked up a TT 6/7 type 6 full sink (free with some other purchases at a fly shop open house) and I'll be giving that a whirl too next time.
For the shorter range work on the smaller rivers that I fish, the rod appears to fill the bill; I'm just trying to get a handle on the line choices.
Anybody own any of these rods?
|Originator: J_D||Date: 12/24/2001 7:20 PM|
The LS 1256 model no suggests that this is a 12' for 5 or 6 wt lines. Is that correct? If so, that has got to be the lightest two handed rod made. Rio has a new for 2002 Windcutter line for 5/6 but I'm not sure if it is available as a multi-tip line. You might try getting in touch with Leroy (a member of this board who is a Lamaglas rep). He is pretty knowledgable about the lamiglas line and what lines work with them.
|Originator: Peter-s-c||Date: 12/24/2001 8:04 PM|
The designation stands for 12' 6" (12.5') and 6 wt. It's listed officially as a 6/7 wt. on the Lamiglas site. I just finished trying it at the park with a full sink TT 6/7 wt. - overhead casted quite nicely. I don't need a multi-tip as I have a wallet full of sinking leaders already. I'm pleased with the ability of the Rio Steelhead/Atlantic Salmon line on my 9 wt. to handle sinking leaders so I'm leaning toward getting the same line for my Lamiglas in a 7 wt.
I understand that a standard Windcutter would not do a good job of turning over sinking leaders unless it was cut back. I bought one for my 9 wt. and I'm a bit sorry as I don't know if I'll ever get in a situation where a straight floater will do me any good.
Thanks for the tip about Leroy.
|Originator: Speyrd||Date: 12/25/2001 2:27 PM|
The rod likes about 340-60 grains and should cast a RIO 5/6 wind cutter. Used the rod for summer run steelhead and floating line work with various line configurations and like a DT 7 if there isn't any wind. If we get wind will use a shooting head system.
|Originator: J_D||Date: 12/25/2001 11:28 PM|
If you want to learn to Spey cast, forget the overhead casting. Set the rod up with the cheaper floating version Rio 5/6 windcutter. Cut the line and install loops at 15 ft back from the tip. Replace the floating tip with one of your sinking leaders when you need to get down.
I doubt if any of the Spey lines, especially tthe smaller ones, will do very well just attaching the sinking leaders directly to the tip. The lines (which will have a tip dia. of approximatley .035) just do not have enough mass to turn over a heavy tip.
It is usually recommmended that one or even two sizes heavier be used for Spey casting than with overhead casting. Leroy's line recommendations for this rod sound right on, go for it.
|Originator: Peter-s-c||Date: 12/26/2001 1:54 PM|
That's three bits of good info, the grain weight, the DT-7, and the 5/6 Windcutter. I was beginning to doubt that the rod would perform well with a DT-7 and I wasn't aware that the Windcutter went down to a 5/6. Given this, my first purchase (in lieu of a DT-7) will be the WF-7 Rio S/AS line as it has a 66' head, about the same as a Midspey, but with a very thick, blunt front taper that will faciltiate the use of tips etc. without the need to cut the line back. I'm using one on my Daiwa already (a WF-10) and I'm quite happy with the setup so far. I also have a 12' section of a DT-4 floater that I can connect to the S/AS to give it roughly the profile of a Windcutter.
After living with this setup for a while, if it doesn't work out as planned, I'll try the Windcutter 5/6. I'm still trying to determine whether I'll ever use just a straight floater for steelhead. I read all this interesting stuff about floater lines but I can't see when I'd ever use them as is. I already own one Windcutter and I'm yet to fish with it - just haven't found an approriate time and place.
or maybe I'm missing something . . .
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