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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 11-10-2001, 05:26 AM Thread Starter
 
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AirFlo shows a Salmon/Steelhead line both in their catalog and on the web that has a front taper of 17' belly 68' rear taper 15' and 5' of running line. This is a floating mono core line in the 7000T series. This is a wt forward line with a working length of 100 feet!
 
Has anyone tried one of these lines? They are available in line sizes 8 thru 12, single line designations. (unusual for Spey lines.) I have heard that these lines are being discontinued, which seems like a shame.
 
I have not been able to get any answers from the Airflo rep after several e-mails and a phone call. Hello Airflo, are you listening?  I can talk to Bruce Richards at S.A. and get straight answers, from a real person. Little bit of sarcasm here maybe but hey, these lines ain't cheap. I want some answers before I lay my money down on the table.
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 11-10-2001, 09:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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Are you calling Rafeff Sports? If not, there's your answer because Ian (Mainstream Angling)is no longer the importer/distributor. Call 866.347.4359 and ask for Tim. Usually, in fact, it is Tim who usually answers the phone.

Yes, I have used the line and I like it, especially for winter fishing as there is very little need to strip in line. Unfortunately it must not have sold well enough, and they are now replacing it for 2002 with a line closer to Rio specs. Ask Tim if the line is going to remain available in Europe, as particularly the English like the more traditional type of line.
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This may not be news to some but I just got the weekly news letter from Mark Bachmann's The Fly Fishing Shop in Welches, OR and they have two of the new Delta spey lines (8/9 & 9/10) listed as being in stock. http://www.flyfishusa.com/newsletter/current/
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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-05-2001, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
 
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J_D:
Sounds like the older Airflo Spey line. I have a couple of them that are like casting kinky wire:^(
Got new lines,(Long Delta 9/10, & Delta 10/11), from Rajeff Sports last week & "played" with the 9/10 on my 13'8 FlyLogic. (The 10/11 goes on my Redington DFR 13'8). Had so much fun with the 9/10 that I never switched rods.
Effortless casting, great shooting, & better handling of the running line than a WC...
There is a distinct "joint" where the belly & running line overlap,(some kind of chemical weld). The belly measures 62' from the joint to the tip. Total length is 120', & according to Tim R., the lines are designed to used with Airflo Polytips, altho I tried a 15' mono leader which turned over well.
I hit that 6" joint section with an orange marker pen, & added an Amnesia nailknot at my pinch point.
Our Midwest rivers are cooling down, so this week I'll be trying sinking Polytips on the 10/11 Delta.
Will report on it's casting...
Best fishes,
Bob B
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post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-08-2001, 07:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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Silverdoc,
I have been using the Delta long spey in various sizes for the past three months and have been extremely impressed. Two things, the head is a sensible length for fishing and the coating is something else. Just wondering if you as well found the coating , and shootability of this line to be a little crazy? Heck the stuff feels slippery in the hand.
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post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-08-2001, 09:09 PM Thread Starter
 
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Yes, the coatings are slicker'n snot on a door knob. I like the Delta Spey lines. They are just too short for my taste.
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post #8 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-31-2001, 02:23 AM Thread Starter
 
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Can anyone tell me the head length and weight of the 9/10 Delta and 9/10 Long Delta lines? These lines are listed for sale on Airflo's website but the head lengths aren't given and there has never been any weights listed for any spey lines. Since Rajeff Sports has taken over this site I hope this will be rectified soon. I want to replace a WC 9/10/11 (St. Croix 14ft rod) and get a little more head length. I know J D, Whistler, Silverdoc, and maybe JRSpey have cast these lines so I'm hoping for some solid info. Thanks
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post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-31-2001, 03:55 AM Thread Starter
 
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The Delta taper has a head length of @ 55ft; the Delta Long @ 65ft. I don't have grain weight info, but I've been fishing a prototype of the Delta 9/10 on a 14ft Loop 9/10 rod since the summer and the performance has been excellent. I've also fished it on a Sage 9140-3 with great results. The Delta  taper does not seem as heavy as the 9/10/11 Windcutter that I have also used on this rod, but loads the rod a little better than the 8/9/10 Windcutter. I'm familiar with the St Croix 14ft rod (it is similar to the Sage 9140-3) and I think the 9/10 Delta would probably be a good match.
 
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Dana, Thanks for the info. Another question, have you been using the poly leaders on the Delta line? If you have are you cutting a little off the line tip or using the line right from the box with or without a mono loop?
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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-01-2002, 01:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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Yup, I've been using Loop and Airflo polyleaders and they work fine right off the end of the line as is--no need to cut it back. I have a loop of 30# Maxima off the front, but you could use a blind splice made from the line core too.
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The AirFlo (55 foot short) Delta and (65 foot) Long Delta lines have the same grain weights throughout the series. That is, a 5/6 (short) and a 5/6 Long Delta Spey both weigh 500 grains.
The rest of the line weights are as follows:
7/8=530
8/9= 575
9/10=640
10/11=690
11/12=770
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post #13 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-08-2002, 11:26 AM Thread Starter
 
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For comparison with the other numbers posted here, I found the Rio head weights at an old post titled "Rio spey lines for the new Sage spey rods" started 07/03/2001 by jims.  That's March 7, not July 3.
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Here is a message posted by Simon in the above mentioned message.  Since Simon works for Rio, it should be good data,
 
Hi Jerry,try this,Simon said in a later post the Accelerator line was the wrong way around so i went ahead and changed it so it should be right,tight lines,brian

New Sage Spey rod line recommendations

                                                   Updated 12th February 2001

                            Windcutter line           Mid Spey Line         Accelerator Line

Rod                     A                   B            A                   B           A                    B

Euro-Action  

                                             

     6126                     7/8/9                     6/7/8            7/8                       6/7             6/7                             -

     8126                    9/10/11                 8/9/10           9/10                     8/9             8/9                           7/8

     7141                     8/9/10                  7/8/9             8/9                      7/8              7/8                           6/7

     9141                     9/10/11                8/9/10          10/11                   9/10            9/10                         8/9 

    10151                    10/11/12              10/11/12      10/11                  10/11           10/11                       9/10

Traditional Action

    7136                       7/8/9                    6/7/8            7/8                      6/7                 -                               -

    9140                       9/10/11                 8/9/10          9/10                    8/9              8/9                             -

    9150                       9/10/11                8/9/10            9/10                    8/9             9/10                           -  

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