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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-02-2000, 09:43 AM Thread Starter
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Hi folks...I'm in the process of building a 14'  9/10 wt. rod with a moderate action.  I happen to have a 10 wt. S.A. Mastery Steehead Taper and I was wondering... have any of you tried to spey cast with one?  If so, what is your opinion of it's usefulness?

Most people I've talked to extol the virtues of RIO's Windcutter.  Have any of you tried Cortland's Step-Taper (double-taper) line? I'd be interested in your opinions of it as it seems like it would be very good.

thanks much

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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-02-2000, 07:27 PM Thread Starter
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I am currently fishing a Sage 9140-4 with the Windcutter. This seems to be a good setup for the sinktips that come with the multi-tip Windcutter package. No shooting needed out to 72' from the reel (14' rod + 54' head + 4' leader) but you need to shoot beyond this. This time of year fishing tips, it is rare that I want to fish beyond this range and if I do, it shoots nicely out to about 100'. However, for dryline work on big rivers such as the Snake, I find the Windcutter to be somewhat limiting and am looking at going with a line with a longer belly.

You might want to check out the post on other Spey links. One of the ones listed (...celeste...) has some good information on lines/rod combinations. Another source would be to look up a copy of Dana's article on building lines that was posted in the Virtual Fly Shop.

Duggan Harman
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Bothell, WA
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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-02-2000, 08:09 PM Thread Starter
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I use one of those Steelhead lines (a 9 weight) on my SAGE 158-4. It works great. Due to wear I cut the runnig line off and replaced it with Flatbeam last year. This gives me another few yards of range.

To sum it up: Your 10 weight should work fine with that 14'#9 rod. Try it before you rush off and by something new and expensive.

Godd luck,


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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-03-2000, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
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There is a very good article on the various Spey lines in the most recent issue (I think it is the Dec 99 one) of "Trout and Salmon" out of the UK--it looks at the subject of distance and compares the taper designs and length of some of the more popular lines out there.

Briefly, the Windcutter is essentially a type of shooting head for a Spey rod, whereas the SA Spey and the Accelerator are long-bellied weight-forward lines for Spey rods.Once upon a time I would have said that the disadvantage of the Windcutter is that it is extremely difficult (if not impossible) to mend once gets a significat distance from the rod tip because the shooting line does not tranfer the energy of the mend so that you can move the main belly of the line.

HOWEVER (okay okay, Per, I'm getting to it!) my numerous discussions with Per and subsequent experimentation with shooting heads suggests that this is not entirely true. It seems that, by altering one's method of mending it is indeed possible to control the shooting head at a significant distance from the rod tip. So the conventional wisdom about shooting heads is just that--conventional. Take an "unconventional" approach that suits the tackle and control is possible.

Per, perhaps you could elaborate on your method for us? I'm afraid I wouldn't do it justice
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