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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-24-2001, 04:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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I took a Rio 9/10 Mid Spey and cut the front taper off, I then removed the back taper of a Rio 9/10  Muliti Tip Spey. I looped both and joined them. They work fine on my 9/10 G.L.3 -14, but I know need a reel that will hold this line plus backing. I've been using a Hardy 11/12 Sovereign, it works but only if I remove the front tip. Any suggestions
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-24-2001, 09:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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Originator: Fred EvansDate: 8/24/2001 5:27 AM
Crap!~ Do this, and same as that, on one of my reels. Will visit 'fish car' and get back to you on that. Being a 'cheapskate' price is good and reel works as 'advertised.'
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post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-24-2001, 09:34 AM Thread Starter
 
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And the answer is ...... (short drum roll) the system 2. Want to go 'less expensive?' The Phlgr 1598 (think I've got the number right) is the biggest they make. Either will hold what you want; Phlgr Med. is about $50'ish bucks."Low class" but the fish don't know the difference.
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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-24-2001, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
 
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Originator: Nooksack MacDate: 8/24/2001 4:34 PM
   The Medalists are (to use a much-abused word) the classic American fly reels, so square that they're retro-cool.  And by actual design, they're "wide-arbor" -- for better or worse.  The 1498 (or the 1598, which adds rim control at the expense of 2.2 ounces) should hold the above-mentioned line, but isn't the answer for all spey lines.
   My usual inexpensive reel for big spey rods is the Cortland Magnum 200D (8.8 ounces, $110, disc drag, interchangeable, rim-control spools) which will carry a 120-foot DT11 plus ample backing.  Even this fine value has its limits.  I had to get the biggest Redington to hold a DT12F spey line.
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post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-25-2001, 01:31 AM Thread Starter
 
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The Magnum 200 can be had from Sportsmail in the U K for ¬£42.00. About $61.00 US. Shipping shouldn't be more than $10.00 or so since they will ship a complete spey outfit for ¬£
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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-25-2001, 06:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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Not to talk you out of a new reel but how much backing would you have to give up to get the front tip on?
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-25-2001, 07:15 AM Thread Starter
 
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Mr. "MLC" asks the $64 dollar question. Been there, etc.  Personal experience is 100 yards of backing is enough and then some. Example; if "Mr. Fish" has 90 feet or more of line out plus 50 yards of backing he's darn near 250 feet down stream. On a flat no movement surface (a lake, chasing like hell in a boat, open Ocean ... you get the drift) you stand a reasonable chance. If it's moving water, unless your an Olympian, 'tain't gonna happen.
 
If you/fish are in moving water (assuming the twit didn't have God's Grace to upstream) your "toast."  Presure of water against line, pull/weight of fish, etc., and etc. ... as I said your "toast." Probability of turning this fish and getting this much line back is about zip.
 
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-25-2001, 11:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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I'll push this again; can't believe this reel is still available.  This LL Bean is a very large reel (not large arbor), that should handle the largest spey lines plus reasonable backing.  It is cast, then machined, and looks and sounds like a Hardy.  (Might be one; I don't know.)  I love mine.  This reel is equivalent to reels costing $200-$250, IMO, and is only $79 now, with spools costing $59!  One of the guys at the Sandy clave had bought one on my recommendation, and was also very pleased.  I'm tempted to buy another as a spare.
 
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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-26-2001, 12:52 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hi,
I can only recommend System 2, as in my opinion this is the best reel for the money. Of course, there are better reels, like LOOP, but these are very expensive.
Although, in The Netherlands both Loop and System 2 are less expensive than in the USA. You might take a look at : http://home.wanadoo.nl/otter.hengelsport/zindex.htm
this is a Dutch (official) Sage/Loop/system2 dealer.
I know he sends a lot of gear to the USA, so take a look.
Regards from Holland, Hans.
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-26-2001, 07:50 AM Thread Starter
 
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I purchased the LL Bean reel on Bill's suggestion and I couldn't be happier. A little heavy but will last me forever. It has been banged on the rocks and stuck in sand countless times. I have about 230 yd. of backing and the Windcutter 9/10 with floating tip takes up most of the reel. Cut the backing and you should be fine. This reel has to be the buy of the year. Don't miss it.
 
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post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-26-2001, 10:01 AM Thread Starter
 
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Might be a little late with this but consider the following. Rio Windcutters are 140 ft long which is probably 30 or forty feet more than most of us are going to cast. So if one were to cut that much from the back of the line, it would allow you to get that tip on the reel without having to sacrifice 100 ft of backing. Another approach would be to replace your backing with Cortland's Micron, which is smaller than the standard dacron backing but not so fine as GSP which will cut your guides.Either one being much cheaper than buying a new reel.
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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-26-2001, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hi All
Thanks for the replies, I think removing some of the running line makes the most sense.
Another question (on another topic) has anyone use the Rio Slick Shooter, if so what knots did you use. This material is rather flat, so I'm not sure what knots would make the best conection. Thanks
 
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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-26-2001, 11:05 PM Thread Starter
 
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Originator: fish-headDate: 8/26/2001 7:05 PM
Mr. Shanks , I have used the slick shooter for a couple of years now ,I really like it. I use Rio 30' shooting heads they come with loops already tied on them . I tie a Clinch or double clinch ,or a nail not .I like the nail knot better it doesn't seemed to hang up in the guides as much .I did have a clinch knot explode on me last year thow , left head in fish .Afriend of mine had some Loop running line I really liked it , I thought it casted better than the slick shooter . Has any one used any of the new running line from Rio that came out this year . Fish-Head
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