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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 06-28-2000, 02:30 AM Thread Starter
 
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I need to buy lines for the above rod.  It is listed in the catalog as a 10/11.

For traditional spey casting, I'm considering the Cortland DT 444SL.  Would those that have used the rod suggest the 10/11, or 11/12?

For overhead casting, I can get the Mastery Tri Tip in WF, 10,11 or 12. Or the Rio Accelerator Interchangeable in 10/11.  Does anyone know what works best for overhead casting with this rod?

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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 06-29-2000, 09:38 AM Thread Starter
 
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I really don't think it's necessary to go with two lines here--either the Accelerator 10/11 or the Mastery Spey 11 will allow you to both Spey and overhead cast without having to go through the trouble of changing reels or spools. If you find that either line is a little short for your tastes, you can loop in another 10' - 20' of an appropriate weight of floating DT .

The IF15011 is a very smooth, easy casting Spey rod and great value for the money. I spent a day with it on the Thompson last fall and was very impressed with its forgiving nature and ability to lay out a long line.

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post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old 06-29-2000, 10:01 AM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks Dana.  "Forgiving nature" is what I was looking for. :-)

The reason I was looking for a DT for spey casting is that Derek Brown, in his video, stated that you must use a DT for spey...WF lines are no good.  I assumed that Mr. Brown used a traditional (full flex) rod and that that was the reason for his statement.  Since the St. Croix is more like a traditional rod (?) than the ones most of you guys use, I thought it prudent to follow his advice.  Have I screwed up again?

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post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old 06-29-2000, 10:15 AM Thread Starter
 
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What Derek was getting at (he and I have discussed this point about his video) was that standard weight forward lines (the 30' head versions) won't cut it for the Spey--the heads are too short to provide an anchor while still allowing enough of a loop to effectively load the rods while casting in the traditional UK styles. The newer Spey lines, while still  weight-forward lines (technically  "long-bellied weight forward lines"), have a combined forward taper and belly length in excess of 70' (in most cases) which allows one to Spey cast very effectively (note that in his video Derek was actually using one of the newer Spey lines and not a standard double taper!).  For longer casts you simply shoot running line into the cast as you would with an overhead cast. These lines are also effective overhead lines with the long double-handed rods.
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post #5 of 5 (permalink) Old 09-12-2000, 08:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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derek is casting his homemade continuous taper lines, not double tapers, not for a while now. in his video, he was using a custom david norwich 15 foot 10 weight 3 piece rod. i have cast it and it is nice, although it turned whitish green when he put it away and flew with it wet (still casts great though).

have only cast one real good long double taper line (SA and cortland don't work well), which was from from hardy (10 weight, it was pale blue, actually made by SA); my friend, charles st. peirre, could throw it all 120 feet on a hardy ulatralight 15'10 weight (occasionally), but i maxed out about 10 feet less on that rod.

i've heard airlfo has some good DT lines, but i have never had the oppportunity to cast one.
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