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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-10-2002, 05:02 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hello all.
 
I'm looking for a Hardy Marquis Salmon with a spare spool. I would have a windcutter 8/9/10 on one spool and a 9/10/11 on the other. Could someone tell me what the different backing capacities would be between the #1, 2 and 3 Marquis Salmon reels? This would help me narrow my search a little. Thanks to all who answer.
 
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-10-2002, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
 
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I have all 3 Marquis reels, but don't have all your answers, but a quick answer is: On the Salmon #2, I have 200 yds of 30# micron with the WC 7/8/9. I "believe" I have 150 yds of 30# micron on a WC-like line I made that would be the equivilent of the 9/10/11. Hope this is a help.
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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-10-2002, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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hello,

The brand of backing ultimately  used will significantly impact the quantity that any of the Hardy Marquis Salmon  series will accommodate due to the significant  variations in diameter size of the various brands of backing available on the market. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>

 Cortland Micron is one of the best for packing in the volume (length) due to the modest diameter to breaking strength ratio of this particular brand. <o></o>

 A reasonable (conservative) estimate for the particular reels and an 8/9/10 line  might  be:<o></o>

 Marquis No. 1:    100 yds  30 lb test Micron + line.  <o></o>

Marquis No. 2:    175 yds<o></o>

Marquis No. 3:    250 yds<o></o>

 You don't want to shovel in too much line because of the danger of cracking the finish on the cage; you also don't want to have to worry about "level winding" in the line when fighting a fish  to keep it from jamming in against the frame (where again, you could damage the finish or lose the fish!) .<o></o>

 There aren't too many rivers where you would have to worry about those particular backing quantities (and you can always use your feet and musculature to compensate for not enough backing!).  The real problem is when you switch from a WF to a DT line, in which case the Salmon No. 2 and No. 3  are your best bets.<o></o>

 Hope this helps.  If you're interested, I have two pairs of the Salmon No. 2 with spare spools for each and a Salmon No. 1 with spool that I stand willing to part with. Thanks for the consideration.  <o></o>

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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-10-2002, 11:32 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks for the info. Someone passed along your e-mail address to me and told me about the reels 4 sale before I checked here. I sent you a message about it. Thanks again.
 
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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-11-2002, 07:06 AM Thread Starter
 
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In case anyone out there is interested in fine-tuning the backing capacities of the Hardy Marquis No. 1 and No. 2 series, please consider the following info which I culled direct from the Hardy pamphlet which originally accompanied these reels:
 
MARQUIS SALMON No. 1:
 
DT8   142 YDS
DT9   109 YDS
WF9  219 YDS
DT10   55 YDS
WF 10  186 YDS
 
MARQUIS SALMON No. 2:
 
DT9   219 YDS
DT10  186YDS
WF10  300YDS
DT11   110 YDS
 
Having used a Marquis No. 3 briefly, my guess is you can bump up the No. 2 specifications by at least 20 % to arrive at  capcities for this reel.
 
Keep in mind, however,  that these figures were calculated back in the 1960's when WF lines were typically 5 - 10 yds shorter then some of the brands which are manufactured today.  It is also true, however, that the backing that was manufactured in those days probably had a higher average diameter then the backing available today so the variances  might be a wash. 
 
It's clear that if using a DT line, however, the Marquis Salmon No. 1 becomes marginal for anything over a 9 weight (unless you're attracted  to kamikaze steelheading)      
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I loaded up a Hardy Marquis Salmon no.2 with 241 yards  of 30 pound dacron backing off of the bulk spool at a local flyshop with a 10/11 Accelerator and I still could have put another 20 yards or so of backing on there if I wanted to.  Hopefully this gives you impression that the Marquis Salmon no.2 has ample room for backing and a good size spey line, because it does.
 
I would imagine you could take it into the local flyshop and they could spool it up for you and they might already have an idea form their expierience, but if that isn't the case I think you could load each spool up, say 300 yards 30 pound dacron backing on one, and 250 yards on the other and you could take backing off accordingly if you have too much on one or the other or both, which with the Windcutter with a lot of running line and a shorter head then the accelerator, I don't think this will be an issue.
I think that much backing is really overkill as once a fish gets that far away it is gone, and the backing is really just there to fill up the arbor of your reel so you can actually retrieve some line when you reel.
 
Hope this helps,
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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-11-2002, 11:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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Not only did I get my backing question answered, looks like I got a reel too!! Thanks again guys. I can't wait to put all this to use.
 
Cheers.
 
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