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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-07-2000, 12:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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just a quick one - can the Sage 7136-4 handle sink tip lines like Rio versitip type 6 ?

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-08-2000, 12:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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I've used tips on this rod to 13' of 8 weight type IV, but nothing heavier.
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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-09-2000, 11:13 PM Thread Starter
 
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Same with me - I've found that I can use a 12' 8wt type6, but that's the heaviest I'd want to use with that soft a rod.  If you're using an extended belly line, it becomes increasingly difficult to initialize the cast because of the soft action of the rod and the deeply sunken tip. 

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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-18-2000, 07:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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This is my favorite small stream summer run rod.  Don't recommend sink tips as you lose mending control.  Urge you to use a 12 - 15 ft. leader with a weighted fly.  You will have far more results.
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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-19-2000, 07:01 AM Thread Starter
 
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I have found this rod to be very versatile. I use this rod frequently for spring steelhead on the Sauk river and can use sinktips up to 150 grains. However these are costom shooting heads with short bellies of 12wt DT line. I like the way these lines load the rod, I have no trouble with mending, usually one mend is all that is required to get the fly fishing at the desired depth with large flys. This might not be your prefered approach with this rod. But its just another example of what this rod can do.

 

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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-29-2000, 09:46 AM Thread Starter
 
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Wow! Tell me more about the 'short belly' 12wt's for the sink tips. I love this rod but it's in for MAJOR repairs at Sage due to my (oh ... shall we say ...) 'experimentation.' Have not found this rod to handle sink tips, sinking shooting heads, etc., really well. But this is a big world .. I'm listing to what will/will not work.Fred
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post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-20-2000, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
 
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        These lines are short belly shooting heads made from DT 12.This allows a person to go up to the heavier sinktips such as 9wt type IV.Without puting to much strain on the rod.The length of the belly is the decideing factor in how many grains you can throw.I will get back to you about some line formulas if you are interested.

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post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-07-2000, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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For Brian: Sorry!! Just flat missed your responce to me vis a vis sink tips for the 7136. I'm most interested even if I'm really late in getting off the block in responding to your offer.
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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-08-2000, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
 
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          Here is a formula that works well for me when I want to cast the heavier tips on the 7136-4. First one is: 20' of DT 12wt looped or spliced to 14' of 10wt type IV for the sinktip. The other one is 18' of DT 12wt and 17' of 9wt type IV for the tip. I like to use the cortland 0.040 running line and loop or splice it to the belly. Im sure that you can find other formulas that will work well for this rod if your willing to play around a little.Lately I have been thinking of adding to the belly section length and going to DT 10 to spread out the grains a bit. The lines above work well enough for me for winter/spring fishing. Using the 7136-4 for spring fishing is a joy because of its light wt. The formulas above I feel are at this rods max. If you want to cast heavier tips you will have to go to a bigger rod.
For a short time the 7136 was my only spey rod so I had to figure a way to make it work for winter/spring fishing. These lines served me well from the skykomish to the skagit.
 
  best of luck, Brian
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-09-2000, 01:35 AM Thread Starter
 
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Brian, thanks for the info. I'm 99% sure I have all the basic materials already at hand. Will play this week end and take the line(s) out for a 'test drive.'  :>)
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