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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-12-2002, 11:50 AM Thread Starter
 
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What method is the one mostly used for connecting the fly line to the leader? Any method that you would advice against?
 
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-12-2002, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
 
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I've tried almost everything and have gone back to using a plain old nail knot. On some lines that don't hold a nail knot well due to the construction of the line I just tie it onto a short loop of fly line, which is very similar to an Albright. I don't even coat them anymore with Aquaseal or Pliobond because I found that the extra little bit of weight was one of the reasons my tips started sinking so quickly.
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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-13-2002, 10:23 AM Thread Starter
 
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I like braided loops. I just make sure to put a drop of superglue at the end when I first connect it to the line. I also put some thread wraps 1/2 way between the loop and the heat shrink and coat them with superglue. I use different colors of thread to tell my different lines apart. These have woked well so far. They seem to cast well without creating a hinge point. They also make it easy for me to change leaders, tips and  poly-leaders.
 
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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-13-2002, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
 
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I use braided connectors for all of my fishiing.  They are available in different sized from light trout to heavy saltwater.  Airflow even has  floating and sinking types.
They are supposed to work like a chinese finger puzzle and they bind or grab when stretched.  If you use a nail knot or glue to help keep it on, put it near the top end so that as much of the braid as possible can stretch..  If you put a wrap half way down, half of the braid cannot do its job (albeit it will still probably hold). 
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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-13-2002, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
 
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The reason for posing what might seem a trite question is that after years of using braided loops on salmon lines, with a touch of adhesive and Aquaseal over the joint so as to provide a smoother transition, I don't think that I have ever registered as many breaks in the coating as I did last year.  I was using Windcutter tips for the most, and maybe I should have removed a bit more of the level end.  Like you, I reverted to the Nail / Needle knot.  I saw a variation on this right at the end of the season. A friend had doubled over the end of his line and tied the Nail knot over this. Apparently lost none of the line when replacing leaders.  (A few year ago, certain fly lines in the UK used to be made with a level end of up to 2 foot in length - to cater for the amount of line lost each time the leader was changed!).
 
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post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-14-2002, 05:51 AM Thread Starter
 
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I also often tie my nail knot onto a loop of line. This way, if tied correctly, there is no way the knot can slip off or peel off the end of the fly line. It is a little bulkier, about like an Albright. It is the only knot I use on lines like the Air Flo and Monic where regular nail knots are not recommended, at least at the leader end. I tie on permanent leader butts which may not be replaced for years. Depending on the line and its intended use I may make the leader butt only 6 inches in length or maybe as much as several feet in length. I usually put a perfection loop in the end of the butt and attach my leader to that via loop-to-loop..
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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-15-2002, 02:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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I have had numerous nail nots pull off when a leader snags the bottom with the loss of the leader. I have never had that happen with the braided loop connectors I now use. You do need to make sure that it is attached securely. I often use two nail nots with 10# maxima to hold the loop in place.
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