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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-29-2001, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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I picked up an old old custom Sage 9140-3 rod from the era before Sage separated their rods into Euro and Traditional Spey actions. I believe that this rod is of the same vintage discussed by Trey Combs in his steelheading text - it does feel rather light in the tip. The (stout!) butt section was recently replaced with a factory section, and reads 9140-3 GFL, 8 1/2 oz.

Can anyone recommend a line for this rod for winter tips fishing using longline spey methods? I'm not quite sure where to start with this rod, and custom sorts of line designs are fine. I'll splice and dice to fine tune if I have a usable starting point.

thanks, Steve
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-30-2001, 09:31 AM Thread Starter
 
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Wow! That is a clasic! I've 'heard of' the 3 piece 914's but never seen one. Looking forward to the answers to this one Steve .... and trying the rod .... Beg-beg?
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post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-30-2001, 09:15 PM Thread Starter
 
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Sounds like the (old) standard 9140-3 to me. Although according to my information, it should weigh in at 9 1/2 oz. and the butt should be .675 inches diameter. Could be a typo though. At any rate, these rods were more like 10 wts. I have a freind who throws a WIndcutter 10/11/12 with the acceclerator upgrade on it.  He built the rod for throwing sink tips and likes it better than the (old) 9140-4. Also, if you go to the topic Rods(US) and pick 9140-3, you will see that Dana has used an Accelerator 10/11 and a Scientific Anglers Mastery Spey 10/11 on this rod.
 
Sure wish it were possible to re-catagorize (is that a legit word?) these threads so this info would be in with Rods, US, 9140-3 where it might be more useful in the future. Hint, hint,,,,Dana.
 
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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-02-2001, 04:33 AM Thread Starter
 
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I managed to get my hands on a Cortland DT Spey 11/12 and it loads the rod quite well. I will eventually splice in a loop for tips - it should be able to handle some serious tips considering that it casts that 11/12 line
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post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-02-2001, 04:41 AM Thread Starter
 
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PS I spoke with Sage and the rod is in fact from before the Euro/Spey separation of their models - pre 1995
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post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-04-2001, 10:58 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hey guys - just back from a long summer of fishing and scrolled through to this thread.  9140-3 - a favourite topic of mine!  You have a great rod, in my opinion one of the most underappreciated rods around.  While it is a "European" action it speycasts exceptionally well, the key as with every rod, is of course the correct line.  After considerable trial and error I finally decided that this rod was in fact a true 10 wt (this was 10 years ago).  Once I put a 10/11 Accelerator on it it cast like a rocket.  I have a number of different rods today and have access to all the demos that Dana gets and this is still my favourite rod and sees major duty for me each season. 

The product line change by Sage and sunbsequent deals available on old stock have put many of these 9140-3's into circulation and once the owners figure out how to line them the evaluation is that they are excellent rods.  If you've got one you are lucky and if you can find one get it!

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post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-05-2001, 02:11 AM Thread Starter
 
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For the Accelerator 10/11, do you know what the main (rear) belly line weight is? Or its diameter?
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post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-06-2001, 03:21 AM Thread Starter
 
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I think that Dana has the specs for the Rio lines on the Spey Pages - check the front page.

Tight lines - tyler.

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I had the same rod and used the SA Spey #10/11 on it for long casts with a minimum of stripping and shooting. It's a fine casting rod and that line was just right when trying to fish long without having to strip in to recast. For sinktips, the short-bellied Windcutter type lines worked better since you have to strip in anyway to roll the sinking portion to the top. I'd still have that rod, but I left it leaning next to a tree by my car in Idaho and someone walked away with it.
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post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-06-2001, 06:39 AM Thread Starter
 
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I fish the Accellerator on the 9140-3 with tips up to typeVI and do minimal stripping (1 or 2 pulls to get the tip up a bit and/or the running line into the rod) mind you I use a snake roll which is very dynamic and I manage to shoot 15-20' of the running line with the tips - with little trouble.
 
The 9140-3 is one of the VERY best all-round speyrods of have used!
 
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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-06-2001, 06:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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Kind of scratching my head here. I've got the "old" 4 piece 9140-4 (one of the first of the production models) and wanted a new Rio Aclrt. for same. Simon's recommendation was the 8/9, Mark's shop recommended the 9-10 Accel. for this rod.
 
Any thoughts on which?  Price is the same but this will be my first of this Rio type  of line so I've zip for a basis for an opnion.
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post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-06-2001, 06:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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fellas

thanks for the line advice - much appreciated. Tapered 10/11 spey lines seem appropriate, but what is the rear "mainline" of a 10/11 factory spey line? Is it a level section of 11 or 12 or 13 wt? The RIO specs link on Speypages went nowhere for me, and RIO webpages lack that sort of info.
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post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-06-2001, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
 
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well, that link used to work--looks like I dropped the "l" on html. Anyways, here is the link. Scroll down until you find the line you want and have a look at their specs.
 
I'll fix the link on Spey Pages
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post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-07-2001, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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It is a great rod and I still use it a lot. I used to use 11 wt. shooting heads following a length table made by Goran Anderson for this particular rod, but over the last two seasons I have mainly used the 9/10/11 Windcutter line. For my casting style I find the Windcutter and 9140-3 to be a superb combination.
 
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I called RIO and learned that the main belly of the 10/11 Accelerator is roughly equivalent to a 13 wt. floater in diameter. wow. and yes, Fred, you can surely give the rod a whirl sometime, though it is a major stick and definitely way too much rod for the Rogue summers. too bad that my fall is shaping up to be "suckfully busy" (Bubba's phrase - I really like it) as last year, but I'll be sure to let you know if I make it down that way

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