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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 12-28-2001, 06:48 AM Thread Starter
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I'm new two the two-handed rod game and am looking for advice on fishing saltwater, specifically from the beach/surf.  I haven't mastered any spey casts yet.  Considering my location, Virginia Beach, I figure I should probably get the overhand casting down first.  We don't have expansive flats here and their is usually plenty of wind to deal with.  I'd appreciate any suggestions on lines, techniques for the salt, webstites, etc... like I said, I'm new this.  Anyway I've been very fortunate to get hold of a 15' Loomis GLX 10/11 and a 14' three piece Sage 9/10 to play with.  Any advice would be most appreciated.
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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 12-28-2001, 07:22 AM Thread Starter
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AndyK, Not trying to take anything away from Dana's site as it is the premier 2 hander site in all the world but here is another very good place to get the info you seek. There is a great deal of East coast surf fishing info (stripers, blues, ect.) here Also if you look back thru the old threads on this (International Spey Casting) site you will find some salt water & 2 hander info
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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old 12-28-2001, 07:46 AM Thread Starter
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I don't have tons of surf casting experience having only fished a two-hander for about four days on Cape Cod over the span of two trips but here's my experiences for what they're worth.
I overhead casted only because I never was in a situation where a spey cast would have been more advantageous.
I averaged between 90' to 100' for most of my casts and wasn't fatigued at all by the end of each session.  I was outcasting all of the single handed rod users despite having a crappy line that kept kinking up and wouldn't run through the guides smoothly.
The two hander was excellent for maintaining line tension when the surf swept the fly inshore.  I found I could work the fly very effectively along the inside of breaking waves where stripers are known to hang out.  I could sweep the fly right up onto the beach with the advancing waves, maintaining line tension the entire way.
To cast back out, I just rollcasted once to work out some line then banged out a single overhead cast.  No hauling or repetitive false casting that would be needed with a single handed rod.
I could continue in windy conditions when all of the other single handed rod users were quitting.
A nice long rod keeps that 2/0 hook with the heavy clouser eyes, well away from your skull.
I didn't have to worry about ticking the sloping beach behind me.
I could easily keep my cast above incoming waves.
Here's a few URLs that I found useful.
I also made use of these books:
Fly Rodding the Coast by Ed Mitchell
Striper Surf by Frank Daignault
Striper Hot Spots by Frank Daignault
L.L. Bean Fly Fishing for Striped Bass
At the time, I was using a St. Croix 14' 9 wt. with a Lamson reel and a horrible SA Stillwater intermediate 10 wt. line on the first trip and a Tibor Riptide on the second trip with an SA Striper 10 wt. intermediate line that was way better compared to the Stillwater.  I used mostly very large clousers the entire time, usually chartreuse with gold white and/or yellow.  Though the St. Croix worked very well, a Euro style rod would probably do better.
Both times I was there, the stripers were holding offshore and the boaters were slaying them while the surfcasters were going empty handed.  At least I had a few hits and one landed - better than a lot of the locals were doing then.
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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 01-06-2002, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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Andy, I wouldn't worry much about the spey casting. For fishing the surf you will primarily be overhead casting.
You can find parts of my article on two-handed fly rods in the surf, at the website for, ' Fly Fishing In Salt Waters,' magazine:
Go to: Techniques>Casting>Size Counts
Also, Nick Curcione had a story about casting them in the last, ( Nov/Dec, 2001,) issue of the same magazine.
If you have specific questions for me, please e-mail as I do not get to check this site very [email protected]
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