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Echo dh 4119 line choices

Just picked up a dh 4119 for local trout outings. Tried a Airflo 40+ (7 wt ) floater on the rod yesterday and was not impressed. Only been casting TH for about a year so no expert here. Would like an integrated line to help with the short aspect of small streams. Is the Airflo 40+ @ 7wt even close? better choice? Echo gr. weight is 270-390 for the 4119. Anybody know what the gr. weight for this 7 weight line? Spring is SOON we hope! Lip

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I really like the Ambush 8 wt. (290 gr.) on that rod for streamers and sink tips. It is a full flexing skagit style rod that works well with a shorter head like the Ambush. Do you plan on mostly swinging flies with this rod? Great Trout rod!

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Poppy sent me a 40+ 6wt for mine. Have not had it on the water, but if that was his recommendation...was good enough for me.
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What is the weight on the 6 wt 40+, is my 7wt 40+ overload?

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From a previous post from Poppy. The 40+ weights are...

40+
5=243grns
6=261grns
7=284grns
8=323grns
9=365grns
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From what I can find for the 40+ weights:

6- 261 gr.
7- 284 gr.

I have not tried either of them myself, but the 7 should work, (at least for me) depending on casting style, flies, etc.

I use an Airflo Compact Scandi 300 gr. with good results, and that seems to be pretty close to Lawrence's recommendation of the 8wt. Ambush (290 gr.)

I hope this helps and check your PM's!

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(I didn't see montanafos's post before posting this myself, but I still hope it helps!)

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I don't have my 4119 anymore, but I loved the 6 wt 40+ on it, as well as a 45 AFS and a 320 compact skagit. But the 6 40+ was my favorite.
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I use an SGS 290 grain scandi and the line comes out like a rocket
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The best line for a given rod is the one you like, and can cast well.


I have done a quick estimated calculation of the lines (from 3 companies) discussed on this thread that fall within the manufacturers grain window for this rod, there are 26. They include Skagit and Scandi style shooting heads and 40 + and Ambush integrated head lines (not including integrated intermediate and sink tip versions). This is absolutely not exhaustive list of lines that would work with this rod. No wonder people can get so confused.

The retail cost of these 26 heads and lines (not including shooting line for heads) is $1694.34. It can be expensive to be grain and taper challenged.

This is why having people like Poppy and Steve Godshall are so valuable. They save people time and money and get them out out on the river with the right equipment. Not such and easy task.

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Echo's Website recommendations for the DH 4119 are: 270 - 390 gr.

They recommend: 360 gr. Skandi Compact and 300 gr. Skandi Compact.

40 + lines are not on their Spey Compatibility Chart but the 7,8 & 9 fall (or very close) within the grain window.

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Rio's recommendations for the DH 4119 are:

"A" 250gr. - "B" 300 gr. Skagit

"A" 240 gr. - "B" 270 gr Scandi -
they recommend Scandi Short VT - "A" #4 - 275 gr. & "B" #5 - 320 gr.
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Royal Wulff Products does not have a line recommendations chart for the Ambush series of lines.

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Airflo 40+ in 6 or 7, 7 loads a bit deeper and is not to heavy.
Skagits Rio 275, S/A 280, work really good.
The airflo 360 grain is a bit heavy I would use something like the first two heads I listed.
A 270-300 grain Scandi is good to.

I fished this rod allot before I sold it.
Please do look in the archives there are some really good threads on line matches for this rod.

Hope this helps.

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