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post #16 of 36 (permalink) Old 05-13-2012, 08:25 PM
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According to the company info, their new technology dampens (I think that would be the right term) the rod more effectively than ever before, which may increase the degree of accuracy available to the caster. Of course one has to be capable of delivering at the level the tools are capable, which I am sure is where I would break down. Sounds like they'd be fun to try though.
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Can anyone comment on the stripping guides for the one? Are they larger, in general, than ZA?

That's my only negative about the Sage rods is their tiny stripping guides. Why can't they go at least one size up on the first guide?
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Interesting that no one mentioned the extreme accuracy of the One. Your line ends up exactly where it is aimed!
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Does it any more than a decent Cane rod or any other with a pronounced spline ,NO. I had a chance to try it (the 7136) for about 15 minutes using a Ballistic Vector Spey @ 570 grains before the crowds appeared @ the Forum - Spey Sherbrooke this past Saturday .all casts @ 60 ,70, 80 and then 90 were as has been advertised =straight as an arrow . IMHO that rod and THAT line is a match made in Heaven. Having said that, so is the Winston 14ft B11X .
Is the One an improvement over a Z-axis ? Probably, because on the Juan the spline is "in line" .Any rod builder worth his salt could align the spline on a z-axis blank to produce an excellent rod .
Pick up of line from the water is a delight and is slightly better than the Winston .
I later tried the rod with a Sage issued line (Rio ?) and its wasn't quite the same match .However, I did have to cut things short as the wind picked up horrendously
As for Fly Guy's comments about the stripping guides I have never found that an issue on any of the Sage rods that I own or have owned as I rarely shoot line as I like mid and long belly lines . Therefor I don't know if it WOULD be an issue for fatter Skagit lines which have no place on East Coast Salmon rivers . It would be a VERY easy matter to fix that anyway .
Rod finish was nice and the cork was exceptional . Handle thickness was as any of my Winstons .
I did try another rod company's rod using the same technology as on the Sage rod and it wasn't as good .However, I was using their line and the wind by then was really firing through and it therefore wasn't an honest test of the rod .

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The words "down locking reel seat" sure caught my eye. I feel that is something that should have been done a long time ago.
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Can some please explain why there are 2 7wt lengths & what the advantages of having the 12'6 vs 13'6. I'm waiting for the realease to pick one up in June.

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Can some please explain why there are 2 7wt lengths & what the advantages of having the 12'6 vs 13'6. I'm waiting for the realease to pick one up in June.

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both are great rods. exceptional smooth and heck of light feels... feather light and super sensitive in hands. 13'6 and 14' are in my wish list. Great line control and cast with absolutely authority!! IMHO

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I cast them both last weekend, and am trying to make a final decision. The 13'6" cast much further and easier, but I am not sure that I need that much rod on my home waters. If I fished bigger rivers more often I would definitely go for it. But since I am fishing not so big of a river, the 12'6 should be fine. But on the other hand since I plane to travel a bit this year, the bigger one would be nice to have as well. Decisions, decisions!
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Accuracy and more

1. Yes, my eyes also stopped on the down-locking reel, which makes sense (at least for me and my arms-casting style).
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2. Accuracy - I am not good enough with a Spey Rod to comment wisely, but think I can offer the following for single hand rods. We can call it dampening and I think we can relate to speed-power, but I find I can achieve a more accurate cast with a smoother - slower rod,versus one to punch line out hard.

For years, I have lawn cast to mutliple targets (5wt and 7wts), and find, I can achieve greater accuracy with a relax cast (from 30' to 70'). Maybe because I think less about the cast, and more about the fishing, or maybe I have have to spend less effort in managing the shock.

With my 9wt RPLXi (Pike tool), I am using more arm, and notice a tendancy to roll the rod (thus slicing (sorry for the golf metaphor)).

(Continue with the golf). My father loved golf, as much as I do with fly-fishing. I grew up with a club in my hand, and was with my Dad a lot (too much, so when I came of age, I shun golf). There are similarities, but one lesson, that applies, from back stroke to front stroke, it is about the rythym of the transition.

I am not good enough in my spey cast to comment on what makes a rod more accurate, but for a single-handed rod, if is help me, to keep my stroke slower and the transitions clean, it would.

Oh yes, I found a relationship with the line selected to. My 8' 5wt Bamboo with a Courtland 444 DT, the rod is graceful, but use a RIO Trout LT WF5 and it just does not work!
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This is my first post of any kind, so please excuse any mistakes.

I may have missed it somewhere in the thread but what line weights and styles (skagit? scandi?) worked on the 11'6" 4wt
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In the New England Spey Clave, 11'6" ONE,,,, the Sage rep had a Rio 280gr Steelhead Scandi with 10ft Versa Leader,,, it cast rather poorly, would not turn over without really pushing the rod.

We changed the leader to a 17ft Maxima mono leader and the rod became excellent. Very smooth and would cast longer distances with little effort.

We did not have time to cast a Skagit,,, I would recomment the Rio Skagit Short in 325gr. and T-8 tips.

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How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB
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I used the 4 ,5, 8 in the 11'6 version of the ONE at the Sandy Clave. Not sure which one[4?] with the same setup you first tried...280 steelhead Scandi...All were effortless pleasure. I did some teaching and thought the 4 & 5 were perfect to learn with as well...light ,easy length for beginner to handle,easy to feel the rod do the work,etc,etc.I will probably get the 5116.
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Thanks for welcome Junkyard Spey. I've followed Spey Pages for the last couple of years while trying to learn two handed casting. I've learned a lot from Spey Page members.
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FKrow, thanks for the technical details. I'm hunting for a light tackle two hand system for river smallmouth. 280 -320 grains sounds in the ball park.
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