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an interesting read on long rods

"Thoughts about the rod...."
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http://color-tone2d.pp.net.ua/Loadin...ut_the_rod.pdf
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Good read. Thanks for the post. I fish year round with a 15’. The article makes me think it’s a short rod. And I agree.
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I fished my Clan 17' 9/10 about 85% of the time on a 10 day BC trip last year. No fatigue at all. Key is a heavy reel and a relaxed stroke. My shoulders cringed every time I picked up a much stiffer 16' rod...
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Harry's thoughts; love it love it and agree.
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Out of curiosity, what rods that are readily available today would best match Mr Jamieson's preferred action? What about a B&W 17' 10wt Norway?
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Some of the new B&W rods being built these days seem to be following this philosophy-longer lengths and lighter lines. Take a look at the B&W NA Facebook page and see some of the creative stuff they’re coming up with.
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What about a B&W 17' 10wt Norway?
I'd think the Walker series would be more in line with the rods Mr. Jamieson speaks of.
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Bruce and Walker does have a new 16’6 8/9 in production.
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Bruce and Walker does have a new 16’6 8/9 in production.
I've only test cast the 16'6" 9/10 Walker and in comparison to my 17' Clan 9/10 the Clan is significantly more regressive and slower recovery.

If you're used to modern faster rods the Walker would be more suitable.

If you're used to bamboo the Clan would be more suitable...

Easy solution is get both! I believe Harry still has some blanks lying around. I know he's still repairing but not sure if he will build a new rod anymore.

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I've been advocating a long trout spey rod for western rivers. No one seems to agree with me. Then again, to fish my skagit line I had to build some cheathers. (Not hard to do.)

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A fantastic read, thank you for posting


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What a great story! I felt pretty good about using 14 and 15' rods; I guess this story puts me in my place! I have heard great things about the long Walkers, but have never tried one. He does hit it on the head for shorter rods and lines. My mentor tried to get me to start out with lines around 55' (delta), but I wanted to use scandi instead. Wish I had done it the other way and started longer, then used short only when needed.
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I one area where I disagree with the author is that I find the very long rods more tiring to cast. After all, they do weigh more.

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Hello.. Very nice read! What Mr. Jamieson possibly misses is the modern approach to the salmon, and fishing the fly. Long rods are fantastic for controlling the line and fly, we all know that. Here in Scandinavia, this is not an issue. Most experienced salmon fishermen here agrees to the idea "you cannot fish the fly too fast". The only line control called for is the DOWNstream mend. Which is a bit complicated anyway with a mono running line on your 35 yard cast, or?? On the LARGE river I fish up north, the locals have gone from 17 footers down to 15, or at the most, 16 foot. The distance offered by 17 foot rods do not compensate the cumbersome handling, long casts and long days. The use of 17 foot rods and a continuous taper line is a distance away from this.. Yours borano20
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Thanks for posting the article.
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