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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-16-2020, 09:56 PM Thread Starter
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Integrated Line for Redington Hydrogen 3113

Can anyone recommend an integrated line for my new Redington Hyrdrogen 3113? I was looking at the OPST Commando Smooth but this is all new to me and I'd like to purchase a line that gives me the most options, swinging, nymphing etc. with additional tips.

Or should I stick with a mono running line and a shooting head?
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Scientific Anglers Spey Lite Integrated Scandi.
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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-18-2020, 08:34 AM
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Heads and shooting/mono are good for getting your fly out there a little further, especially with heavier flies and tips, when swinging.

Integrated lines generally don't shoot as far, but are nicer for handling as they're less tangly and it's pretty impossible to do proper mends for a tricky dry fly or nymph drift with a short head and thin running/mono. Even integrated lines aren't great at mending, but they are better. Rio, Wulff Ambush, OPST, Airflo Switch, and SA all make fine integrated lines.

Note: although I don't do it, some guys just use regular double-tapered single hand lines for versatility with light trout spey: you will be able to overhand, roll cast, and nymph quite well with a DT, but you won't be able to do the skagit style sustained anchor casts or use much in the way of sink tips. Mending will be markedly better however. The general rule for this is three weight sizes up (so, your 3wt troutspey rod would be looking at a 6wt singlehand, double tapered line). There's a lot of discussion about this rod, and you can search on these pages to find the DT experts and appropriate advice about DTs, and probably even find a line match if that interests you at all.

Just think about where you fish the most and what type of fishing you see yourself doing the most with this rod, and then start to make your decision.
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Airflo Switch Float .... I do not like the very short heavy heads with some.
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I did this comparative review to help make similar decision. I did this for me, keep this data for me to come back to, but if others are helped, good.
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I can second the airflo switch floating line, it’s excellent on my sage one 4116 and I am sure a lighter version would be great on your rod
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I have this rod and have used OPST Commando, Rio Scandi Short, Rio Trout Spey, and various 5wt thru 7wt DT lines.

I agree with all of the opinions expressed in this thread, but listen to Blix and choose your priority, and line the rod accordingly.

I don't nymph, so you're on your own there, but maybe this will help anyway.

OPST 250, easiest to cast, will do your heavy hauling.

Rio Trout Spey 265, almost as easy to cast as OPST, very versatile. It can tow some weight (Rio Trout Versileaders with dries to moderate streamers), but turns over nicer than a skagit. The shooting line is very thin and mends only slightly better than mono.

Rio Scandi Short 240, slightly less easy to cast than Rio Trout Spey. Tows a pair of soft hackles or a light streamer on mono leaders. Way more delicate than the other shooting heads. When looped to an up-sized (heavier than recommended for a given head weight) Rio Connect Core shooting line, it still does some distance, but mends pretty well for swinging.

As for DT lines, least easy to cast, useful for skinny water and small flies (dries, wets, and really really light streamers) if you dont have to shoot line. You do have to use different technique than when casting shooting heads. There is almost no rod feel with a DT. Best match for me so far is a 6wt SA Mastery DT.

Hope this helps

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Snowbee used to make a switch line that was available down to 200 grains that I found pretty good on trout wt 2 handers, only complaint was loops didn,t last long on mine but nice casting line.More of a scandi line. Daryl
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I used a Rio 6wt Single Handed Spey line on my Sage One 3110 trout spey back then. Not a bad line.
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I have Hydrogen 4 wt and went from commando 300/lazar to 300 commando smooth and easier running line management and no loss of distance.

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I'm a huge fan of swinging soft hackles and small streamers for trout and hate to feel the loop to loop bump going through the guides on light lines and light tippets (down to 5x for the soft hackles). I really like the AirFlo Switch Float—a little longer head length for my 10'6" to 11'6" light two-handers AND they easily handle all but the heaviest Polyleaders and sinking tips should I need to get the fly/flies down. I use the WF-4 (270 grains) on my 3wt. Hydrogen.

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Thank you everyone for your replies...They are very helpful!

I'll let you know which way I go.
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-26-2020, 01:24 AM
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I really like the SA Speylite Scandi 210 gr on my Hydrogen 3113.
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