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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-14-2019, 09:37 AM Thread Starter
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Orvi Clearwater vs Loomis Pro 4x

Looking for advice from you guys. I am looking to buy either a 7130 clearwater (newest model) or a 12’6” 6/7 Loomis pro 4x. Both are used and both right at $200-$230. This will be my winter rod for larger rivers in NY, tribs of erie and ontario.. performance wise, do you feel one rod is superior than the other? I know the pro 4x has been discontinued and the Orvis is a recent model but curious what you guys think. It will be loaded with a skagit head 90% of the time and I tend to prefer larger, bulky flies. Anyone have experience with one or the other... or both?
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I can't comment on the Orvis but I have the Pro4x in a 13' 7/8. The 7/8 likes to be on the heavy side for lines. I have thrown 9wt Long head speys on it and it handled it perfectly. I normally use a 510 skagit on it(when I use a skagit) but have recently puchased a 580 and think it should work well. Peter's video may help some.

https://www.hooked4life.ca/h4l/video..._126pro4x.html

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Dan, I think if the pro4x was the 7/8 I would have already scooped it up. The 6/7’s head suggestions seem a little light for me but I am sure it would be killer either way. Trying to stay under $300, only so many options out there. From what I hear, they have a more progressive or “less fast” taper and I prefer that. Not huge on the super fast rods, although I have never owned a real high end sage or loomis, etc. Thanks for the input, I have watched all those videos on youtube, great stuff!
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I own the pro4x you are asking about and also have a few of the Clearwater rods. Both rods series are more on the deeper loading side. I’m not sure where you will be fishing but I would consider that more than anything else. The Orvis can most likely handle heavier lines and give you a slight distance advantage over the pro4x. You cant go wrong with either rod.

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I own the pro4x you are asking about and also have a few of the Clearwater rods. Both rods series are more on the deeper loading side. I’m not sure where you will be fishing but I would consider that more than anything else. The Orvis can most likely handle heavier lines and give you a slight distance advantage over the pro4x. You cant go wrong with either rod.

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Sweet deal. What grain skagits are you tossing on the 6/7, will it handle a 480g head? This rod will be for the catt, genny, possibly the Salmon as well, not the smaller creeks. I have an 1168 renegade for all the smaller water out here. I know it will be perfect for the Catt but the genny is a beast with beastly fish, probably a tad light.
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The Pro4x will top out with a 480 Skagit. A 450 is right on the spot. This rod will work fine on the Catt and salmon rivers. The genesee river would be best fished with the Clearwater rod. I fish the salmon river and the catt with sub 12 rods with no issues. Just remember that this is all just my opinion. Good luck.

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The Pro4x will top out with a 480 Skagit. A 450 is right on the spot. This rod will work fine on the Catt and salmon rivers. The genesee river would be best fished with the Clearwater rod. I fish the salmon river and the catt with sub 12’ rods with no issues. Just remember that this is all just my opinion. Good luck.

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Thanks man, I appreciate it. I have a problem with buying rods I probably don’t need... I’m sure my 11’6” 8wt would do everything I need it to do but I have the itch for a longer rod now. I’ve always fished the Catt with switch rods myself, never had an issue but I am closer to the genny and want to experience it more. Might have to go with that clearwater as my genny specific rod after all.
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