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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 08-16-2019, 11:09 AM Thread Starter
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what rod length and weight do you use most ?

Wondering if in your spey journey you have changed your outlook on rods you use?
I know when i started everyone seemed to use 14' 8wts as a general rule...i also remember landing my first fly caught winter steelhead on said rod and later saying to my bud..."Damn that thing came in skating across the water, mouth open...wasn't too much fun in the fight"... ( i used smaller pin rods etc before that in my gear fishing stage)

Now i have rods from 11' to 16' ... I honestly don't use the 16' one...the 15's ill use occasionally on a trip to the CW etc.

Mostly, i use smaller rods...with the exception of my new 14' 7/8wt B&W which is still in the "**** i love this rod stage " as it's light and a blast to cast and fish...

I think with the birth of new lighter weight longer rods that's a real plus but i sometimes find i use shorter rods with longer lines and enjoy it more...These shorter rods are such lethal weapons and can be fished all day without a care...even trout spey are becoming legit....

So what do you find yourself fishing as your "summer" and " winter" rods now?
Are there any changes? Do you use the same for both?
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I do not go far beyond the Clearwater, Snake, Ronde as my job is not very flexible Aug - June, so do not have much of a chance for winter fish. For those three rivers I have rods from 13' to 15' in 7 and 8wt. I have been using a 7wt early and on the Ronde, and the 14' and 15' 8wts later in the year. What has evolved for me has been the choice of lines. I started this journey about 10 years ago with scandi's on 13' and 14' rods, and am now using 54' and 63' lines on my main rods, except the Gaelforce 38' heads are killer on my 7wts when shorter lines are called for (Ronde). I also have that 14' 7/8 BW and am still playing around with lines, but that rod is a blast. -Dave
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I use 13-6 8 weight, have 2, this is what I have, this is what I use. Phoned bob meiser before my first build- rod, told him where when I fish.
His decision, and a good one at that.
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My daily fisher is a CND Solstice at 13' 4" 7 weight. I use this nearly year around and everywhere that I fish. My summer lightweight alternative is the CND Spey Tracker; it's 12' 2" and a 5 wt. It's OK for steelhead up to about 10 pounds. Because the Solstice is no longer made, I built up a back up rod on a Sage Z-Axis 7136 blank a few years ago. It test casts really well, but I haven't ever fished it yet.
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Personally, I'm inclined to go with the longest rod and line combo that fits where I'm fishing. My home river, the Methow, is pretty small and most of it could be covered with an 11' stick but I often find myself using 13' to 14' rods with mid-bellies as they give me a greater ability to steer my swing into the smaller buckets across the whole river. On the CW and Snake, skies the limit. Might use a 12'er, or even a single hander, for some of the small pockets along cut banks, but on most of the runs I seldom use anything shorter than 15' and prefer 16' to 17'. As far as summer and winter rods go, I almost always prefer longer rods in the winter when I more often use sink tips. I find the greater lifting ability of the longer rods to be a significant advantage here. Use skagit heads as seldom as possible and much prefer short bellies (e.g. SalarFinder45, Rage...with 15' tips), mid-bellies (WA55) or even long bellies (WA70) with tips in the winter. I've seen enough winter steelhead caught on size 14 Prince nymphs, and caught enough of them with my summer style flies, that I am quite certain that a 4", lead eyed Intruder is not required...or actually might be a disadvantage. Hence, no need for the huge freight moving capacity of a skagit. If I can't readily use singles and snakes, without rolling the tip to the surface first, I'm not very happy; hence the long rods and relatively longer lines. Fishing needs to be fun and not just a utilitarian exercise.

For my next Deschutes trip the central rod in my arsenal will be a 16' 6/7wt prototype with a WA70 6/7. Even the little 5 pounder's will bend that thing in half and I'll be able to steer my bug into and around all the boulders and slots! But in the interest of full disclosure I'm almost exclusively fishing interior Columbia Basin tribs and summer run fish, not winter run fish on the OP. Now, in the interest of even fuller disclosure, I have been advocating for, and I believe B&W is pretty close to having, a 12' 6wt Powerlite. That stick, and the 12'6" that the OP recently acquired, will be tons of fun on rivers like the Methow, GR, Deschutes, and all sorts of places in southern Oregon and northern California. But when it's all said and done the 13' 6/7 Powerlite is the one rod that is ALWAYS in the truck when there is even the most remote chance of a steelhead being in the vicinity. My .02

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11'9 7 wt JM Reid Steelheader's favorite does 85% of my summer and fall, and a 12'6 7/8 MKS does 90% of my winter. I have longer and shorter, and enjoy them, but not quite as much.
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15'2" Solstice 90% of the time, regardless of river size. Its all about line control!
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I fish a 12'6" 5 wt. Meiser in summer, which can easily handle anything up to 15 lbs, and fish either my 13'6" 7/8 Meiser, or my 15' Meiser 8/9 in winter, which can handle anything else I can pin.

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Living on Vancouver island I’d say 90% of my fishing is done with rods in the 11-13’ range. I do own longer rods and love to cast them but they just are not practical where I fish most of the time. I wish I could fish longer rods more often but it can be a pain on some of the smaller bush rivers we have.
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Winter fishing is done almost exclusively with a 13’ 7/8. Once or twice a year for winter work I will break out the 16’ 9/10 as I enjoy casting it. Then back to the 13’.

Early summer fishing I start with a 15’ 6/7/8 or a 16’ 7 and as waters drop and I move up river I will drop to either a 11’9” 6 weight or a 11’1” 4/5 weight. Once fall rolls around and it is Thompson/CW/Snake time - then the 16’ rods come out. The 9/10 for the first two and the 7 for the latter.

After the middle of November then I’m back with the 13’ 8 in hand until June.
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I have alot of sticks that cover me all year long depending on what I'm fishing for and the conditions I'm fishing in. But in general...

For winter work...B&W 13'6" 8wt Walkers are my rod of choice. Sprinkled up or down plus or minus one weight and plus or minus 1.5ft in rod length depending on how I feel.

Summer/Fall work...B&W 16'6" 9/10 Walkers especially on the CW. Depending on my mood I can go down one or two weights and 1ft plus or minus rod length.

The above is for Steelhead. For Spring Chinook I'm usually 9-11wts and as long a rod as I can get away with. My two favorites this past season was the B&W Powerlite Deluxes in 15' 10wt and 16'10/11wt. I ran into some super hot Chinook that made those two rods feel like noodles.
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The above is for Steelhead. For Spring Chinook I'm usually 9-11wts and as long a rod as I can get away with. My two favorites this past season was the B&W Powerlite Deluxes in 15' 10wt and 16'10/11wt. I ran into some super hot Chinook that made those two rods feel like noodles.
Man, I'd like to see the chinook that could taco those rods!
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summer - 13'1" 6wt
winter - 12'4" 8wt or the above 6wt on occasion.
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I do not go far beyond the Clearwater, Snake, Ronde as my job is not very flexible Aug - June, so do not have much of a chance for winter fish. For those three rivers I have rods from 13' to 15' in 7 and 8wt. I have been using a 7wt early and on the Ronde, and the 14' and 15' 8wts later in the year. What has evolved for me has been the choice of lines. I started this journey about 10 years ago with scandi's on 13' and 14' rods, and am now using 54' and 63' lines on my main rods, except the Gaelforce 38' heads are killer on my 7wts when shorter lines are called for (Ronde). I also have that 14' 7/8 BW and am still playing around with lines, but that rod is a blast. -Dave
Coug, please elaborate on the Gaelforce 38'. Which head specifically.? Looking to pair my 13' 8wt. Thanks
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Coug, please elaborate on the Gaelforce 38'. Which head specifically.? Looking to pair my 13' 8wt. Thanks
They are the equalizer shooting heads. I use a Gaelforce Equalizer shooting head #9 38' 523gr for a 14' 7/8 and the 37' #8 462gr for a 7134. I have the last one with an integrated running line. @fisshman26 ; advised me on which one to get for the first I bought. I have bought all of my Gaelforce lines at the Red Shed where Poppy/Dale really know their stuff.
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