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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-14-2019, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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Looking for a 15+ft 7-weight...

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I am looking for a long rod with similar action as the 7139-4 Burkie. Does anyone have any recommendations? Maybe Meiser?

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I have a Burkie 6139 and a Meiser highlander 14246 so I have tried them side by side. The 6139 is more progressive than the highlander. With Burkies the development process can sometimes be very individualized for the different rods, but maybe someone on here who knows both can say how the 6139 compares with the 7139. From stories I have heard, mostly on here, it seems Burkheimer has a history of designing some nice soulful versions of rods (maybe more like the highlanders) that a few people really love, but then making them more progressive after feedback from their customers. So if you want to find a very similar action maybe look for a slightly more progressive rod than a highlander. But you still might like the Meiser 15’ highlander. There aren’t a ton of other with those specs out there.

A 15’ 7wt is a bit on the envelope edge of rods that are available, like a 14’ 6 wt. I was on a quest a while back to find the perfect one of the latter for me, and it was a difficult search through sparse offerings. But the godfather of the fringe weight-length spey rod combinations is Steve Godshall, and he also has a lot of info in his database about actions of rods that he has measured, so calling him might be a wonderful place to start. He might even have the right blank for you. Hope this helps a little.

Hopefully over time the creep into longer, lighter spey rods being made, as well as lighter versions of the appropriate lines will continue. The lighter Gaelforce equalizers that recently came out are a good sign.
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Getting that Burkie blank and building an extension butt section is one method. Few inches from the tip should cut as well to keep action similar.

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Get a Bruce and Walker 16' 7/8 powerlite or you could get the Burkheimer 8152. Both rods have a lot of good lines that fit on them now. I would personal go with the B&W, but you could not go wrong with the Burkheimer either.

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As already indicated your choices are limited in a 15' 7wt. You have Meiser, and, ......., ok, I'm at a loss here, probably Meiser.

If you go up to an 8wt your choices broaden. I'd suggest the B&W 15' 7/8 Powerlite.

Keep in mind, in the lighter weights, line as well as rod choice is limited. NextCast will serve you well. Again more choices in the 8+ range.
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I'm in love with my Meiser 16' 6/7/8 Highlander


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How is the action compared to a Burkie?
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Give me a ring 541-770-4766 <> E-Mail [email protected] ... And if you wish ... We can arrange for you to field test the new S2H15068CX-4 Highlanders, one of the S2H15068C-4, S2H16068C-4 Highlander Classics ... Or all three ... !!!

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How is the action compared to a Burkie?
I have no idea.
All I can add to the action of my Highlander is is it responsive, progressive, with a full range of flex from butt to tip. There is reserve power in the butt that allows a broad grain window. I am amazed with the tip authority this rod has to lift a sunk line that is usually a characteristic of the heavy line rods. It truly is a gem
It is a great traditional belly line rod, but also is just fantastic with long shooting heads. I think you would really like it. Take up Mr. Meiser's offer on the trial, you can see for yourself


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Since the Meiser is one of the few rods with the specs that fit your original question you should test one! If you want to go up a small bit the Burkie 8152 is a fantastic rod. I need to spend a lot more time working with mine before I will be worthy of IT. As pointed out that rod, at the present moment, might allow you far more choices as far as available longer lines, so it might make things more interesting for you than a true 7 wt. Someone may be able to say more but, depending on tastes, I think the lines for that one would overlap well with the 6/7/8 highlanders.

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8152-4 is a super strong rod IMO as it casts the 8/9 F2F70 well. It overpowers smaller steelhead as well. Sage 8150-4 is nice and it lays down the 6/7 nextcast lines very well in my experience.
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I love the 8152 Burkie. It is one of the few Burkie models I’ve cast that I thought, I need this rod. That said, in no way is it a 6/7 in my opinion. The old 8150 Sage comes closer and was a great rod but still more of a 7/8 in my experience.

The Meiser 15’ 6/7/8 is IMHO a true 7 and while I know some love it with a 7/8 NC 70, I much prefer the 6/7 on mine.

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This points out an issue I came across when I went looking for a light long rod. When you get too light, finding a decent long line is tough. A NextCast FF 70 6/7 is probably around 56’ long, and there are not many other lines in that weight class that are longer or that turnover as well.

I recently got a Boss from Gene that he sized for my 16’ 7/8. It is 62’ long and 708grains. We tried a few longer lighter lines but they didn’t perform as well. My point is, their seems to be a limit to making these longbellies thinner/lighter and still being able to properly transfer the energy of the cast. I have tried many lines as I figured this out.

A friend of mine always points out that anything you can do with a 15’ rod, you can probably do better with a 16’. I think he is right about this. Last week I fished the Deschutes and the Umpqua with my 16 7/8 and 500 compact scandi and it was great, I had my 6126-3 sage and never even thought to use it.
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I'm new to the forum and this may be obvious to everyone, but what do you gain with the extra for in a 15' 7 when compared to a 14' 7? Just curious. What about with a 16'? I'm trying to figure out if I want to go longer when I buy a dream rod down the road.
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I'm new to the forum and this may be obvious to everyone, but what do you gain with the extra for in a 15' 7 when compared to a 14' 7? Just curious. What about with a 16'? I'm trying to figure out if I want to go longer when I buy a dream rod down the road.
I think for most people it is about the ability to handle longer lines, 60’ +, a little better and a little easier.

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