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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 10:52 PM Thread Starter
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Echo TR2 4113 casting feel/line recs

Im thinking of buying a TR2 4113 for use on my local smallmouth waters. I've read that people feel this rod is actually a
4-1/2 or 5 weight, which I believe would match well with my fish size and river conditions. I was thinking of pairing this rod with a #4 305 grain Rio Trout Spey Head (high end of Rio's scandi rating) or 325 Scandi Body (low end of the skagit rating) for use with 5' and 10' floating through extra fast sinking polyleaders. I would like to get the same or a similar casting feel as I do with my much loved TR2 7130 and full floating 480 Rio Scandi (middle of Rio's scandi recs), but with the versatility of a head designed to tow polyleaders. I intend to fish lightly weighted and slightly wind-resistant flies... nothing ridiculous. I've already consulted Airflo's and Rio's line charts and older posts here on SP. Only one person mentioned a 325 scandi body for the 4113. Several people say that Airflo's line recs overload the rod. What are your thoughts/ experiences/ observations/ recommendations? Please no skagit heads! Thanks in advance!

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I have the 4113 and the 3110. I usually throw 325 gr. skagit heads but have a 325 Scandi Body with various poly leaders and it casts great sustained anchor or TnG. You could go a notch lighter for a faster scandi feel but the 325 grainer flew with weighted buggers/leeches and cut the wind. From looking at line profiles the new Rio Trout Spey is 22 ft. and the Scandi Body is 23 ft. with tapers almost identical. I don't see where there is significant difference. The 4113 is a powerful 4 wt. but the lines that work on it seem comparable to other 4 wt. trout speys. Echo's line recommendations at 360 skagit seems too heavy. Hope that helps.

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Thanks for your input Moonlighter! That 325 on this rod sounds like exactly what I had in mind! Have you used floating polys or tips with it for dry/damp work? It would be pretty cool to have one head that fits 90% of my spring/summer/fall smallie fishing!

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Hey, Capt. Just got back from the local trout pond. Tried the 4113 with the 325 Scandi Body and floating tips. I haven't cast it before with floaters, only intermediates and faster sinking poly's. The light MOW floater, no bueno! 10 ft. Salmon poly is right on. I don't think I would go for a lighter scandi head than the 325 unless you really like a faster sweep and are more of an underhand TnG caster. The 325 and poly combo would do sustained anchor and TnG casts just fine. It doesn't load deep into the butt like a similar weight skagit but it turns over and straightens out very nice. I may have to use this combo more and get my casting stroke dialed in to this rig. Being a skagit junkie is pretty limiting.
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Thanks for the quick update Moonlighter.
You make the 325 sound ideal for me. I have a preference for the modern scandi (I think this is the correct term) style of casting, not the super compact 100% underhand style. I like to keep my movements at an easy moderate pace during casting. I don't want to have to speed up to create rod load with a too-light head, or slow way down to accommodate a too-heavy one. Lately I've preferred Rio's A-rating for a skagit head, and a full floating scandi to be about 30 grains lighter, both with TnG casts. I like feel a certain weight/resistance during the cast, but I don't need a rod to bend all the way into the handle anymore. What kind of shooting line are you running and what distance were you getting (just an estimate is good enough)?
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I've been off and on with mono but have mostly stuck with Airflo Ridge 20 lb. or SA coated shooting line also 20 lb. Don't need maximum distance and these float, are easy to grip and have minimal tangles. Probably getting 70 ft. casts easy. I'm really impressed with the Echo TR2 trout speys.
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Thanks again! Good info! Sounds like this is exactly what I'm looking for!

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