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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 07-14-2019, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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Can someone educate me on what the difference is between a Powerlite and a Walker. Thanks.
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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 07-14-2019, 11:09 PM
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B&W make different models of rods...Powerlite, Norway, Walker etc. the Walker series is a more full flexing rod while the Powerlite is like its name...powerful, lighter and in some cases a faster action...

If you go to their site you can see the different rods and models...
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Thats a good question. I cast both of these rod type frequently.

I have owned 3 walkers:
15’6” 9/10 (10/11)
16’6” 9/10
17’6” 9/10

And 3 Powerlites:
15’ 11wt
16’ 7/8
16’ 8/9

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15’ 7/8/9

Powerlites, to me, seem stiffer than the Walkers in general. Except the Powerlite 16’ 7/8 which has a real flexy feel. Generally, I think the Powerlites flex primarily in the lower 1/2 of the rod.

Walkers all seem to flex primarily in the upper 1/3 of the rod with what I would call a middle to tip action.The Walker 16’6” 9/10 feels like nothing else. It is truly unique. It feels soft and bendy, but generates very high line speeds.

I have made a lot of video of casting these rods and play it back in slow motion to see what the rods do and how they flex during the cast. But there are some Powerlites that feel soft, and Walkers that feel stiff.

In my opinion, the Walker 16’6” is the quintessential Walker, and the 16’ 8/9 is the ideal Powerlite.

I hope that is helpful. It is a tough question to give straight answer on, and I am not sure if my answer is even that accurate, but it is what I have observed based on the above rods.
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Upon further reflection and conversing with Gene and my casting buddy Tom, My above findings are, at the very least debatable. The Walker 16'6" and 17'6" have plenty of flex towards the tip of the rod, and I can see definite flex mid way down the graphite, but there is also some noticeable flex at the cork. To me I see the most pronounced curvature in the middle to the tip. I have attached a photo of the 16'6" Walker being cast to illustrate.

The 15'6" Walker feels more like a Powerlite, without the deeper flex I feel with the other two. But here is the thing, the way a rod feels is not always the same as how we describe it. When I hear a description such as "deeper flex", I think of the rod being more flexible near the cork, but in many cases that flex is more in the upper half of the rod.

With the Powerlights, I find that the rod has a really stiff tip which forces the flex into the middle and butt section of the rod. Below is a picture of the Powerlite 16' 7/8 (which is an extreme example) showing this.
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I've cast some of each but don't own one. That being said, B&W makes legendary sticks and the reputation is earned.

I find the PL is progressive, faster and has a more "modern" feel. I've cast a few Walkers and find them to be more forgiving when it comes to timing and have a more relaxed flex with a pretty strong tip. Dynamite longbelly rods both.

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To those who cast the Walkers: Are the flexes much different between the 16'6 and the 17'6?
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I'd love to see the 15' 7/9 (3 piece) in casting motion. To me this is the most "iconic" of the B&W rods and what sent me down the path of acquiring many more B&W rods and making my other rods collect dust....


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Upon further reflection and conversing with Gene and my casting buddy Tom, My above findings are, at the very least debatable. The Walker 16'6" and 17'6" have plenty of flex towards the tip of the rod, and I can see definite flex mid way down the graphite, but there is also some noticeable flex at the cork. To me I see the most pronounced curvature in the middle to the tip. I have attached a photo of the 16'6" Walker being cast to illustrate.

The 15'6" Walker feels more like a Powerlite, without the deeper flex I feel with the other two. But here is the thing, the way a rod feels is not always the same as how we describe it. When I hear a description such as "deeper flex", I think of the rod being more flexible near the cork, but in many cases that flex is more in the upper half of the rod.

With the Powerlights, I find that the rod has a really stiff tip which forces the flex into the middle and butt section of the rod. Below is a picture of the Powerlite 16' 7/8 (which is an extreme example) showing this.

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Ask and you shall receive. Caster is Zack Williams with one of his 15' 7/9 PL's. I think he has two of them!
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Thanks Tom! Very insightful.

I describe the PL 15 7/9 as a progressive strong tip rod (if that even makes sense? it's not regressive like an MKS). Loads of power and it doesn't mind being pushed. Not a great rod for beginners that should be slowing down their stroke to let the rod do the work. I'm very guilty of applying way too much power on the forward stroke all the time.

I use an 8/9 GPS on mine so I'm not sure if I'm digging into the lower 1/3 as much as Zack. I'm guessing he's using a WA 8/9 on that cast which is considerably heavier than a GPS line.

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Preston,

Actually, I think the line in this picture is a prototype, and not from Nextcast. Your description of the 7/9 sounds about right to me, including the part about not being a great beginner rod............but if you can cast it correctly, I'm not sure there is anything else quite like it. Can't think of a more powerful 15'er than the 7/9. If you hit it right you can hit it really hard. It thrives with a proper, aggressive stroke.

With respect to "digging into the lower 1/3", few people can dig lower than Zack!
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The line in the pic of Zack casting is a Gaelforce prototype of what is now the Gaelforce 83 10/11 that had been cut back
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And the other guy in the pic is fisshman26 taking the closeups!

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That is a serious reel! Any idea who made that? Thanks.

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Looks like a 4" platewind Farlex reel made by Tim Gelinas.
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