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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2018, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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G. Loomis Asquith Rods

I'm surprised at how little attention these rods are getting on this forum. My first experience was with a 14' 9 wt spey rod. I really felt like I was casting a 6 or 7 weight. Then I got a 13' 7 weight and again felt like I was casting a 5 weight. These rods are a very fast action, yet do not seem to possess the stiffness and rigidity I've always found in very fast action single hand rods. I've only had them a few months and haven't yet landed a steelhead with one, but over the next few months, I plan to give them a workout on Lake Michigan winter run fish.

Any experience or comments would be helpful. Peter Charles of Hooked4Life is the only one who has posted any experience. His comments were about a 13'6" 8 weight.

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The video I posted in Spey Basics was shot 100% with the Asquith 13' 6" 8 wt. It's the only rod I use now on the Grand.

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A couple of takeaways from that vid: how much distance I'm getting with so little effort and when trying to back off and make short 70' - 80' casts, I was getting a lot of recoil as the line slammed tight.

As Gene said, the rod feels like it's two line weights lighter than it really is. They're stiff, very fast recovery rods, but they don't cast like stiff rods.

If you're in the market for a high end rod, try an Asquith before dropping the coin. If you don't try one and spend the money on something else, then do yourself a favour and don't try an Asquith afterward.
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I agree that there seems to be a lack of info/experiences out there compared to other popular rods. I have the 7130 and the 6129. Couldn't agree more on how light the rods are in hand. The action is great and is easy to pour on the power without overloading it. On the 7130 I've mostly been fishing a 510gr skagit head with it and it can toss 12.5' of T14 with ease. I feel like it could easily toss more. On the 6129 I've been using a 390gr skagit head and a 360 rage head. This one is stupid fun to cast. It's even lighter but still casts a mile easily.


I really feel like responsiveness and durability of the blanks are a cut above the rest. I've had others try the rod, take a spill along a rocky shoreline and have the blank come out without a scratch on it. The aesthetics are simple (I prefer simple to ornate) and clean. It's a great line up and have heard nothing but good things.... minus the price... but the warranty seems pretty good (knock on wood I won't have to use it) and Loomis' other rods seem to be killin' it too (I have two IMX-Pros currently). Seems like they hit the nail on the head with these two model of rods.

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Although I didn't cast them I had a look at Peters line up a while back and they sure are pretty. Extremely light in the hand and just feel good. They seem to be a reel step up from the past looks of a G. Loomis stick but I guess this just showing the construction method being use for aesthetics. It works!

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This is also the case with new sage rods. Maybe people just aren’t buying top range rods at the high price they seem to command
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The strength of these rods and others using the new nano material composites are impressive. The hardy Zenith range and Zephrus have similar qualities. The rods durability will be first rate.

What would be great to see would be these materials used in some of the more traditional tapers, imagine a B&W made of one of the new composites. That with a fine long belly line would be a real treat.
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I loved the Asquith 7130 so much, it was an absolute pleasure to cast. The only problem I've had was finding one at a discount or used. Offers welcome!
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I flinch at the prices being asked of top line rods today as well, but I have to admit, they are noticeably better than the lower priced competition. The question I ask myself is--with my casting capabilities, will I be able to use the advantages of the higher priced rods. Three years ago, the answer was no. Today, my casting has improved enough to move the answer up to maybe. I was able to find a good deal on the Asquiths I own and a couple of my T&Ts were used. FWIW, the T&T is very similar to the Asquith in most ways, just a tad bit heavier.

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The name is terrible. Maybe the worst ever.
It sounds way to close to something else.
And marketing is marketing for a reason.
Probably should fire the guy who came up with the name.... sorry whoever you are.


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I'd agree, the main reasons these rods aren't getting more love on this forum are the high price point (although Berkies aren't much less and they have a cult following on this board), lack of marketing blitz (if this were a Sage rod, the blitz would be non-stop) and that...name! Horrible. The fit and finish on these rods if simple and Spartan (I like that) and the cork quality and workmanship is the finest in the industry--bar none. I believe I heard Loomis has their own dedicated cork grower and I believe it. The cork almost looks fake, it's so perfect.

That being said, I have the 6129 and my buddy has the 7130. The 6 weight is outstanding--very light in hand (feels like 5 wt) and just a wonderful dry line rod that has a relatively soft tip but tons of power in the butt section. I've got that rod lined with a Nextcast WA 40' head, 480 grain (not a typo) and when hit just right, the line absolutely sails. Rod also casts great with AF 390gr Scandi. It really shines as a dry line rod but you can use skagits on it, just not nearly as fun to cast.

My buddy's 7130 is a much different rod. Stiffer, still light and overall a great rod. Haven't cast it much but he seems to like it.

Just my $0.02

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I'd agree, the main reasons these rods aren't getting more love on this forum are the high price point (although Berkies aren't much less and they have a cult following on this board), lack of marketing blitz (if this were a Sage rod, the blitz would be non-stop) and that...name! Horrible. The fit and finish on these rods if simple and Spartan (I like that) and the cork quality and workmanship is the finest in the industry--bar none. I believe I heard Loomis has their own dedicated cork grower and I believe it. The cork almost looks fake, it's so perfect.

That being said, I have the 6129 and my buddy has the 7130. The 6 weight is outstanding--very light in hand (feels like 5 wt) and just a wonderful dry line rod that has a relatively soft tip but tons of power in the butt section. I've got that rod lined with a Nextcast WA 40' head, 480 grain (not a typo) and when hit just right, the line absolutely sails. Rod also casts great with AF 390gr Scandi. It really shines as a dry line rod but you can use skagits on it, just not nearly as fun to cast.

My buddy's 7130 is a much different rod. Stiffer, still light and overall a great rod. Haven't cast it much but he seems to like it.

Just my $0.02

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Yep real hard to lay down that kinda dough for a rod I can't even demo up here in Canada. They look nice on the rack though.
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Just bear in mind the Loomis product promotion dept. isn't all that hot.Agreed,who'd call a rod "Asquith"?,might as well he Herbert or Humphry.Mindst you, it was in all honesty the same geezer who came up with the whipping colour for the first production runs of the NRX!.
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I'm not even sure how you pronounce it but it would be nice to try one.

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I tried the 15' version long belly and with WA with tips.

I found it was extremely light, tons of power, quick recovery, quite forgiving.

What I didn't like was I think it was too muted when it came to feedback to the caster esp. when to pull the trigger or how much gas is needed.

I think at this price point, aside from its name shouldn't infer a butthole gagging on an alka seltzer, it has to be more characteristic of a luxuriant stick than merely a high performing tool. The spiral X, the Shimano technology, does wonders to the torsional twist (although a tester told me he couldn't feel the difference between CND's BV-GT and non BV-GT blanks). But I also think some torsional twist near the top of the rod provides some feedback cue for the caster's transitioning from back cast to forward cast setup. I feel this is the one of the major criticism of current nano blank designs (in addition of mass loss that helps in self loading). The feedback we are used to from non-nano blanks is now too muted (too little of a signal) or simply designed out out of sheer material choice. Not all rod slop is bad.

But then again, all things evolve. And I think the next generation will give us the full advantages of nano as well as the feel we have enjoyed from non-nano blanks. Or maybe our taste for feel should evolve as well?
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