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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-13-2017, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
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Asquith 7130

Cast one of these at the Sandy Spey Clave last spring and fell in love with it. Knew it was only a matter of time until I snagged one. Lucky for me, just got one off of the classifiedes on here. Wanted to pick your brains on what you run on it. Checked the Airflo line recommendation chart, but I still wanted to know what you all think. Info on Loomis gear seems to be few and far between on the internet. Thanks,

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Here's the Loomis recommendations for their rods:

Loomis Line recommendations

This chart is accurate and we can rely on it.
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Thanks Peter.

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It's like making a big old pot of coffee when you ain't got no cream
I don't need to change my strings
'Cause the dirt don't hurt the way I sing
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I can vouch for the Airflo G2 540 grain. I love this combo.
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I would offer a different suggestion for Scandinavia head line ratings from the line chart as I believe 450 grn is too light- way too light. It has been suggested by some gurus that 480 is the goods. But, if you really want to send it while still maintaining a very lively quick feel consider a Gaelforce 523 ESH....the mutha flies.

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Rio Scandi Short @34 feet and 510 grains with Airflo 14 foot intermediate poly.

Are the 6129 and the 8136 as SWEET????
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Rio Scandi Short @34 feet and 510 grains with Airflo 14 foot intermediate poly.

Are the 6129 and the 8136 as SWEET????
I have not cast the 8136 but own the 6129 and it's quite possibly one of the sweetest rods I've ever had the pleasure of fishing, got it mainly for dry line fishing. Feather light, extremely responsive and feels in hand more like a 4 weight. And although light, you can really feel the power in the butt section when you connect with a wily chrome metal head. It's hard to believe the thing is almost 13 feet long! It excels best as a dry line rod but will also cast Skagit with tips. Right now I'm using a 450gr G2 Skagit with a Rio 5ft float/5ft Type 8 sink tip and it's a pleasure to cast. For dry lines, I use a Rage 390 but have also cast a Ballistic Express 380 that was awesome as well as a Scandi Compact 360. Truly a wonderful stick.

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I would highly recommend a 510 Airflo Skagit Switch or a 540 Skagit compact. If you like Rage a 450 or a 480 are both great, most prefer the 450. This is how we have them set up at the Sandy River Spey Clave.

I like the 6129 with a much lighter load the Bigfatrod. I am a 390 Scout or Switch and a 330 SA Scandi light or a 360 rage guy. You will notice that all the Asquith family can take a large grain window as I have messed up a few times at events and put a 600 reel on the 7130. Customers came back talking about how great the stick was and then I had to do a demo with a customer an noticed it was off. Put the 510 back on and had the customers recast it and they were amazed how well the rod can handle a heavy load.
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Bump on this thread. Just picked up one of these up myself, line recommendations are super helpful!

Thinking about getting a new reel for this setup, what recommendations do you all have? I’m thinking of the Hardy perfect 4” or 4 1/4”, but can’t find info on the target weight to balance this rod. Open to other reel ideas too (Cascapedia?).

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Bump on this thread. Just picked up one of these up myself, line recommendations are super helpful!

Thinking about getting a new reel for this setup, what recommendations do you all have? I’m thinking of the Hardy perfect 4” or 4 1/4”, but can’t find info on the target weight to balance this rod. Open to other reel ideas too (Cascapedia?).
What I do is take a freezer bag and tape it to the reel seat area on a rod.
I put a spey line in the bag then keep adding weight until the rod balances wherever I like holding the rod on the upper corks.
Then take the bag, remove the speyline and weigh the bag.
That's the weight of the reel you want.

The weight of the backing that's missing helps offset the weight of the fly line that's in the guides when you're heading to the river
A 4 1/4" perfect weighs 21 oz with line and backing, a 4" Young 10B (perfect) weighs 17.5 oz with line and backing.
I think too much for a 13' #7

My 13'7" Onyx #7 balances with a 13.5 oz. reel with line and backing so a Hardy Salmon #1, a Hardy 9000 Demon, or a Hardy 3 1/2" wide spool perfect all work well as does a Young 1535 or 1540 or Young 3 1/2" wide 10B (which is what I use).
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Bump on this thread. Just picked up one of these up myself, line recommendations are super helpful!

Thinking about getting a new reel for this setup, what recommendations do you all have? I’m thinking of the Hardy perfect 4” or 4 1/4”, but can’t find info on the target weight to balance this rod. Open to other reel ideas too (Cascapedia?).
What I do is take a freezer bag and tape it to the reel seat area on a rod.
I put a spey line in the bag then keep adding weight until the rod balances wherever I like holding the rod on the upper corks.
Then take the bag, remove the speyline and weigh the bag.
That's the weight of the reel you want.

The weight of the backing that's missing helps offset the weight of the fly line that's in the guides when you're heading to the river
A 4 1/4" perfect weighs 21 oz with line and backing, a 4" Young 10B (perfect) weighs 17.5 oz with line and backing.
I think too much for a 13' #7

My 13'7" Onyx #7 balances with a 13.5 oz. reel with line and backing so a Hardy Salmon #1, a Hardy 9000 Demon, or a Hardy 3 1/2" wide spool perfect all work well as does a Young 1535 or 1540 or Young 3 1/2" wide 10B (which is what I use).
JD - this is great advice! Thank you. Know what I’m doing tomorrow! I’ll look into the Young 10B in the meantime. Happy Holidays!

Cheers,
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JD - this is great advice! Thank you. Know what I’m doing tomorrow! I’ll look into the Young 10B in the meantime. Happy Holidays!
Once you know the weight of reel you need you're ready to go.
My reel experience is limited and there are members with vastly more reel experience than I.
Hopefully some will chime in.

I believe the Hardy and Young 3 1/2" wide spool perfect style salmon reels are scarce so might not be the best choice.
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JD - this is great advice! Thank you. Know what I’m doing tomorrow! I’ll look into the Young 10B in the meantime. Happy Holidays!
Once you know the weight of reel you need you're ready to go.
My reel experience is limited and there are members with vastly more reel experience than I.
Hopefully some will chime in.

I believe the Hardy and Young 3 1/2" wide spool perfect style salmon reels are scarce so might not be the best choice.
Going to start with you ziploc bag trick to narrow in on needed weight. Appreciate all the advice!

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For those of you that own this rod (7130); Have you been pretty happy with it? Thinking of getting one soon. There are so many choices out there; really just want to pick something versatile and stick with it.
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Hi All - wanted to post the results of the test jdcross recommended:

Results: 8-10oz reel seems to be the ideal range for the 7130. 10oz could be a little heavy if you like to hold the rod at the top of the cork during the swing. 8 is maybe a little light depending on line (though jdcross aptly pointed out that the line in the guides pretty much nets out the backing/running line in the reel). Based on this I'm picking up a Farlex 3.75" platewind per a suggestion on a separate thread, which I'm excited to try on the river once received.

Now to line it up. Picked up an Airflo 510 FIST for an intermediate line based on recommendations I've read here and other reviews. Still trying to narrow in on an everyday Skagit line - I currently fish a 540 Skagit compact from Airflo which wasn't bad on the 7130 (flywaterguides suggested the 540 compact in this thread too). My local shop (EWA out of West Seattle) recommended the Airflo 510 Skagit Driver, the newest compact line (I prefer more length than the new shorties on the market). Open to suggestions!

Reel weight test for those interested:
Method (as suggested by jdcross) - needed: food scale, ziploc, counterbalance weights i.e. coins, chair as fulcrum optional
1) Put a hole near the top of your ziploc such that it can fit snugly near the reel seat on your rod
2) Measure out starting test weight (I started with 8oz based on suggestions in this thread).
3) Test balance of rod at test weights. Vary hand position to your preferred swing position on the cork. (Careful to not teeter-totter your rod into a warranty claim!)
4) Slowly add more weight and test for desired balance.
End test!
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Go fishing!

Thank you to all who help me zero in on setting this beauty up properly!

Cheers,
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