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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-06-2013, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
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In the early planning stages of a trip to Chile and was wondering what month people think is the best for dry fly fishing. One of the outfitters I am talking to is suggesting I go mid-January which is a bit earlier than when I was thinking and I am just trying to get an unbiased opionion of the fishing at that time. It was my understanding that mid January is still early season with less predictable weather(and I understand there is no such thing as predictable, especially in Patagonia) and conditions, and that the dry fly fishing does not really peak until Feb/March.

I am tempted to pull the trigger on the mid-January dates as I like the lodge and the price is sort of right. Just want to make sure he isn't trying to fill dates that aren't as desireable. As a single angler, these types of trips can be tough because so many lodges want double occupancy.

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You do not necessarily indicate where in Southern Chile you intend to fish. The country is is fairly narrow (duh), but the varying micro climates that exist in the region is what you might want to be concerned with at this point.

Here is my experience.

We were in Chile's Patagonia a couple of years back in February for prime dry fly season. We landed in Balmaceda near the border in an arid area, but we fished closer to the coast, within miles of fjords or salt within a temperate rainforest. Figuring (pre-trip) that the latitude was similar to Portland, it was a safe to figure some rain. Actually it was similar to a little further North- possibly the coastline of BC. Unfortunately, it rained 9 out of the 11 days we were there. How much rain? Enough rain to easily raise and drop the river 4-5 feet. Not bad for un-dammed rivers as the water clarity remained fairly consistent. Air temps remained in the 50's and 60's day time and dropped to the high 30's at night. I don't think we threw dries more than one day. Not certain if the surrounding mountains and uplift of moisture coming inland created the situation. We did have glaciers above us closer to the coast and can only assume that the mountains adjacent the fjords were covered with ice fields after reviewing Google's satellite maps post trip. I was reminded that mountains create their own weather. The area around Coyhaique and inland towards Argentina was drier during our time frame. I asked the guides daily, during heavy rains and wind, if this was their dry fly season. Their response was a resounding yes. They had experienced day time temps in the 80's before our arrival. Of course, your results may vary. Hope this helps in your trip planning. I would go back on a moment's notice given the same conditions.
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Thanks for the feedback. The lodge I am looking at is about an hour from Coyahoquie (sp) and looks to be a good bit inland.

But thank you for the response. Definitely gives me a feeling as to what to expect.
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january is still run off in that area but there is a great morning caddis hatch. later may be better for hoppers and such...
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Which lodge?

Out of curiosity which lodge are you thinking? I spent 3 months at Patagonia Drifters dec-feb and had fairly consistent dry fly fishing during much of that time. It did slightly pick up as the months went on but mid-jan and onward was fairly consistent. We really only used two patterns, fat albert and gypsy king with the fat albert being my preferred. Weather during that time was mostly pleasant although there was some days that guides were forced to go to the surrounding lakes as high rains had blown out even the largest of clear water rivers. I am from AK and would equate if very favorably to interior Alaska weather. Some days are nice, some aren't; not very helpful I know but the surrounding valleys and mountains make for some very interesting climate zones.

We did have days that the temp would be over 80 so be prepared for that. The stars down there are also unbelievable; on a clear night it is definitely worth staying awake if you are in a remote part of Patagonia.

On new years eve I hooked a dime bright 40 pound king on a sink tip/wooly bugger set up right in front of the lodge. It was one of the great fights of my angling life. If you've got a spare 10 weight it would be worth bringing for some after dinner casting.

PM me if you'd like some more beta. Beautiful area.
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I have fished four different years for 3-4 weeks in Region 12, all in early spring (late October and November) and have had decent dry fly fishing even then. I fished a few days with Alex Prior and a few days with Gaston at Rumba Pantagon to get the feel of the Chile tactics before doing the rest on my own. You are correct about the mirco climates, and differences going to the maritime region along the coast. Early in the season you normally are fishing dry with a dropped nymph on single hand, and once they stay on the dry, its off with the nymph and dry only. Or just wait until later in the day until you go with the dry. I would not hesitate booking in mid-January for a trip to Coyhoique if your interest is in some dry fly action. The swung fly works all the time, which is where most of my interest lies, but it is super cool having them gulp big drys.

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Appreciate everyones feedback. I am finding this all very helpful.
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Hi Troutpunk,

I think the data you received is OK, mid January is good to expect Dry Fly Fishing, last years in the region were very hot in February any way. March depending on the season could be very cold and rainy.

Aysen area (Coyhaique) is a very long region, you can start dry Fly fishing at the end of October in Baker area and make excellent dry fly fishing on Yelcho area at December (north of Coyhaique), it depends in what part your are willing to fish.

For example, since this are my country waters, i love to fish first days of the season in november for lake trout eating scuds in knee deep waters.

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Hi troutpunk :

Mid january is good, I like better end of january and february.

But the fact is that weather condition here are not predictable at all.

Ask at your lodge contact, how much they move from the lodge?, wath area do they fish?. Where do you fish in case of bad weather? because you want a dry fly fishing experience.

In some lodge do not cover an extence area and fish only places near.

Ask, about the rivers for sight fishing, best rivers for dry fly, and lakes?

Get a map, spot the lodge and look for the rivers, and then ask again?


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Hi Troutpunk

All the data provided to you is ok.

January and February are excellent, and March could be fine too but all depends on weather................and weather in Southern Chile is unpredictable.

I remembered several remarkable dry fly sunny summers in Coyhaique area and, on the other hand, some cold and windy summers when we must cross the border back again to Argentina just to see the sun after two weeks of heavy rain, all day long (day and night, non stop rain), all happened during January, which is exceptional anyway ................but it could happen.

Pacific ocean storm fronts has all the responsability about that; weather is lottery in Chile, ...............there is an old saying among the chileans, a local foreman once told me: " In southern Chile it used to rain 13 months a year" which in fact is not true at all, ...............but, just go prepared for that.

An also go prepared for the charming people, the hospitality, the good wines and meals, the amazing landscapes, etc; Coyhaique area is really a wonderfull spot for a fine summer fishing vacation in Southern Chile.

Enjoy it !
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Thanks guys. I am going Jan 11-18. Really looking forward to it...
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Hopefully you can stay longer than the time allotted to just the fishing. You will have a blast. If you need a baggage handler at the airport, let me know. Don't forget to have a pisco sour- great stuff. Follow with wine and repeat. Just hope you enjoy blood sausage. It is tough to swallow hungover. And no, it is not a remedy for over indulging.
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Consider the dates

I forget to mention that, on january 17th to 24th, will be the world masters fly fishing chanpionship, celebrated in Coyhaique.
ww . wffc-chile2014.com/en/evento.php

That means that will be crowded, from maybe one week before and a couple of days later.

I´m talking about more than 1.000 people.

So I´ll consider change the dates. Do it and enjoy fishing rivers almost only for you.

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I think the real secret to a good chili is about a 1/4 to 1/3 cup of semi-sweet chocolate chips. Yeah, I know what you're thinking, but just try it. Magic.

At the same time, I recently made a white bean, jalapeño, chicken chili that was killer. Next time I make it, I'm going to try adding the chocolate to it.
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Well, had an awesome trip to pategonia. Turns out January is a great time to go. Weather was great with the expected wind. Almost all fish caught on big dries.













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